Jasper
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 03:30 PM |
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Brake hoses zip tied to wishbones???
My front braided hoses are rather long, and up till now they've been happy being zip-tied to the bottom wishbone.
Am I right in saying this will not do for SVA, and they need to be clear of everything??
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Metal Hippy
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 03:46 PM |
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I thought your car was passed and on the road?
Cock off or cock on. You choose.
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Jasper
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 04:06 PM |
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That was my other car .......
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Metal Hippy
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 04:08 PM |
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Ah, well I've missed something then.
What happened?
Cock off or cock on. You choose.
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Mark H
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 04:19 PM |
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I would *think* that long is better than short (for full turning) and that only if they are in danger of getting caught would it become an SVA
issue.
I can't see why a wrap for neatness (as long as it can turn) would even raise an eyebrow.
Of course, if it is a fail, he will let you take the wrap off during the test (he let me put loads on during my SVA - in fact he did them himself
whilst the car was on the ramp!)
Caveat - may be worth speaking to your tester!
Mark Harrison and
Q986 KCP back from the dead...
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mangogroove
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 04:27 PM |
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zip ties on brake pipes
My thoughts are that any movement could wear the wall of the pipes particulary with zip ties
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donut
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 04:34 PM |
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Jasper
I was told that the pipes are not allowed to touch any part of the car while turning lock to lock. Some people have put Jubilee clips inside the gater
on the steering rack to reduce the turning circle which also means less chance of the pipe touching anything.
Also if they are braded make sure they are wrapped in that spiro wrap stuff.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Jasper
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 05:09 PM |
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Why do I need to wrap braided hoses in spiro wrap????
Maybe if I put a small piece of split rubber tube around it at the point that's it's zip tied??
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 18/11/03 at 06:13 PM |
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jasper,use spiral wrap,it will stop the hose rubbing and looks like you did a neat job
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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SeaBass
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| posted on 19/11/03 at 08:49 AM |
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What's the point of having the stainless braiding in the first place then? Plastic "spiro-rap" is less resistant to abrasion than
stainless braiding. No offence but as for looking like a neat job, I would agree with "paranoid cover everything job just to please Mr
SVA" which is the stage I'm getting to. BUT before anyone bites my head off, you certainly do become an expert at Jumping Through Hoops to
register a Locost... So will have to go and buy some Spiro wrap to cover up!
Cheers
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Viper
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| posted on 19/11/03 at 08:59 AM |
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The point of ss braided hose isn't for abrasion resistance, the point of these hoses is to improve pedal feel because they don't swell
like standard rubber ones
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/11/03 at 09:37 AM |
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The problem isn't the hose wearing away - it's the fact that the braiding is highly abrasive and wears everything else away! It's
like a file, rubbing away whatever it's touching.
DJ
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SeaBass
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| posted on 19/11/03 at 12:45 PM |
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I can see how it would act as an abrasive surface, but I thought we'd agreed that the hose shouldn't touch anything?
Cheers
[Edited on 19/11/03 by SeaBass]
[Edited on 19/11/03 by SeaBass]
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scutter
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| posted on 19/11/03 at 07:54 PM |
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Jasper,
I was planning to use rubber lined P clips, one around the wishbone and one around the hose and simply bolt them together.
Think I got the idea from a louts 340R, they definately fasten the brake lines to the upper wishbone, just can't remember how
All the best Dan.
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locoboy
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| posted on 20/11/03 at 11:22 AM |
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Mate of mine passed with a self tapper holding a rubber lined p-clip onto the front cycle wing support. looks neat too.
no spiro wrap and it passed with braided hoses too.
ATB
Locoboy
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greggors84
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| posted on 20/11/03 at 06:09 PM |
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ColMaccoll
Have you got any pictures of how you fastened your brake lines?
Thanks
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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locoboy
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| posted on 21/11/03 at 10:11 AM |
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I dont have any piccys but it is really simple, the hose exits the side panel of the car, it then goes to the rear cycle arch stay just above the
caliper, a hwole is drilled in the stay (its round tube) and a p clip and self tapper is screwed in.
this ensures that it does not chaff on anything and means that thre is no pulling effect on the calliper end of things. The end is screwed directly
into the calliper too.
ATB
Locoboy
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 24/11/03 at 10:53 AM |
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I think there is a difference here between touching and fixing.
zip ties or whatever are fixings. the hose stays put. if its waving around and contacts wheel or bones intermittently, thats touching.
I have used ties on my front pipes and I cant see the issue. I could change to P clips, but im tending to think sod it, wait and see what sva actually
says.
Is a P clip 'touching' or a fixing, and if so, how does a zip tie differ in mechanics....?
I may put a zip tie around the 'bone' then put a zip tie thro that and tie the pipe so that its only in contact with the lower tie and the
upper tie - not actually the 'bone itself. Then we will see what Mr sva man things of the pedantics of that.
atb
steve
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