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| posted on 14/9/13 at 08:27 AM |
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Iva worries, tie- wrap
Hi all
I am waiting to hear for my Iva test. I hear different experience regarding tie wraps , I have used it to secure the cables with insulation in the
engine bay, and then securing the wiring from the stay wing , also the cover for the steering arms etc. looking at the CKC it looked like the
arrangement they have used.
So is tie wrap a problem for IVA?
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adithorp
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 09:10 AM |
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Tie-wraps/zip-ties are fine for IVA.
Only issue can be if the catch and cut end are in an area where radii and sharp edges are checked. Just be sure to have the buckle bit turned out of
the way on the wishbones.
Don't use the stick on, self adhesive cable tie bases though as they aren't considered secure enough. They need a pop-rivet through them.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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iank
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 09:25 AM |
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Modern tin-tops are generally stuffed full of tie wraps which is a good sign they can be accepted at IVA, but as said any bases must be secure (rivet,
riv-nut or nut and bolt) as the self adhesive bases don't stay stuck down very long.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Sloan85
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 10:46 AM |
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Not a problem for cables.
For the steering arm covers, ball joint covers etc. my IVA examiner explained that if the cable ties are cut the covers shouldn't fall off. They
shouldn't be fully secured by only cable ties. Reason being should the car go for work at a garage, or the next owner of the car does some work
on it, if the cable ties are cut and the covers fall off, there's a good chance they won't be put back on.
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axle
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 01:55 PM |
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self adhesive cable ties
Thank u all for your input.
I have used self adhesive base mount cable ties for holding the the cable tie in place. However to hold them secure I have used tiger seal. it does
this mean the should be riveted !
Cheers
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 05:24 PM |
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Tops never use ordinary cable ties to directly secure the wiring, where a ties is used it is always on a base to ensure the wiring stands
clear cannot rub directly against the chassis.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 14/9/13 at 05:41 PM |
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I nearly failed my SVA due to tie-wraps - or their base, anyway. Tie-wraps are perfectly acceptable, but the bases need to be fixed securely; you
can't rely on the adhesive backing on its own (as said above).
In my case, most of the tie-wrap bases in my car were pop-riveted to the chassis, but I had fixed the rear wiring harness to the inside of the rear
panel using just their adhesive pads (couldn't use pop-rivets there!). The tester wasn't happy about that, but gave me a few minutes to
fix the wiring to the chassis tubes using tie-wraps.
I have to say that he was right - within a year or two the adhesive tape had failed and the wiring would have been flapping about, This was despite
me cleaning the area underneath as thoroughly as I could manage.
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axle
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| posted on 15/9/13 at 09:17 AM |
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Thanks
Thank you all, I am going to have to this in the way you all suggested not only for Iva , but also for being reliable. A big thanks for David above
as he mentined within the couple of years all the sticky stuff had fallen off.
Cheers again Axle
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doobrychat
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| posted on 15/9/13 at 09:29 AM |
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I use rubber lined pclips for my wiring rivited to the chassis.. .. much tidier than cable ties and not one word mentioned at my IVA
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AdrianH
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| posted on 15/9/13 at 12:06 PM |
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I used stick on tie bases on the inside of the rear panel for wiring and passed, IVA. I did get told they were not good enough but I said they use
stickies for numberplate’s now, they had a few tugs and the bases held and are still in place going on for 4 years.
Engine compartment and tunnel etc are all riveted P clips
Adrian
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Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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axle
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| posted on 18/9/13 at 07:13 PM |
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Thank u
Thank u all for your response, I am glad I did bring this matter up, it is sorted now . My IVA application is posted and waiting to hear for the date.
Please wish me luck and keep fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!
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