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blakep82

posted on 15/5/14 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
ignition switch

I'm not using a collumn off a sierra or anything, and want a starter button, so I looked out an on-off switch that you can't take the key out when on, found one on ebay, cheap, bought it, but its also got a start position

Would iva be a problem if the start isn't connected to anything? Or if the key and button both esstentially do the same job?





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40inches

posted on 15/5/14 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
I have a full column switch and a start button. I used the start position on the ignition switch for the brake fluid lamp test switch, the examiner liked it.






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posted on 16/5/14 at 06:26 AM Reply With Quote
I've got a savage start switch in the garage if that's any good?
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blakep82

posted on 16/5/14 at 04:22 PM Reply With Quote
nice idea on the brake test! i've already got a test button under the warning light though...

barkalarr, is your switch a starter button, or key switch? I've already got both, but could do with a nicer key switch





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40inches

posted on 16/5/14 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
This any good? No start position.Universal Ignition Switch For Motorcycles Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki KTM






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blakep82

posted on 16/5/14 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
yes! spot on. i've put that on my watch list (since i've already bought one thats not ideal)
cheers!





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posted on 16/5/14 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
Mine is a start switch
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Chris_Xtreme

posted on 20/5/14 at 07:03 PM Reply With Quote
not sure if I am remembering correctly, but isn't there something in the IVA re having a locking steering wheel? - or possibly in the new MOT regs?

my current xtreme has the lock broken out as the key was so close to the dash it was really annoying - an alarm which says the ignition switch can be on or off, which is just a 40amp decent toggle switch and similar next to it for a starter..

I was too before I did the above looking for a decent switch but never thought to look for bike parts.. nice idea.

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CosKev3

posted on 20/5/14 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Chris_Xtreme
not sure if I am remembering correctly, but isn't there something in the IVA re having a locking steering wheel? - or possibly in the new MOT regs?

my current xtreme has the lock broken out as the key was so close to the dash it was really annoying - an alarm which says the ignition switch can be on or off, which is just a 40amp decent toggle switch and similar next to it for a starter..

I was too before I did the above looking for a decent switch but never thought to look for bike parts.. nice idea.


Think you need two items to secure the car for IVA, so if you have no steering lock you need an electronic immobiliser along with an ignition key.

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blakep82

posted on 20/5/14 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
No need for steering lock. I've got immobiliser and key, so I'm sorted





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The Black Flash

posted on 21/5/14 at 12:14 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CosKev3
quote:
Originally posted by Chris_Xtreme
not sure if I am remembering correctly, but isn't there something in the IVA re having a locking steering wheel? - or possibly in the new MOT regs?

my current xtreme has the lock broken out as the key was so close to the dash it was really annoying - an alarm which says the ignition switch can be on or off, which is just a 40amp decent toggle switch and similar next to it for a starter..

I was too before I did the above looking for a decent switch but never thought to look for bike parts.. nice idea.


Think you need two items to secure the car for IVA, so if you have no steering lock you need an electronic immobiliser along with an ignition key.


The two items thing is a myth. The manual says "A vehicle MUST be fitted with EITHER a mechanical
anti – theft device or an electronic immobiliser."

FWIW the requirement for a key is rather hazy -the glossary states that an ignition switch is a "key operated switch", but otherwise a key is not specifically required in the regs. Since many production cars have no key operated switch I suspect that this is just an anacronism. Worth checking with your local test centre, I don't have one and nobody said a word about it.

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posted on 21/5/14 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Black Flash
The two items thing is a myth. The manual says "A vehicle MUST be fitted with EITHER a mechanical
anti – theft device or an electronic immobiliser."

FWIW the requirement for a key is rather hazy -the glossary states that an ignition switch is a "key operated switch", but otherwise a key is not specifically required in the regs. Since many production cars have no key operated switch I suspect that this is just an anacronism. Worth checking with your local test centre, I don't have one and nobody said a word about it.


I think the two items stems from the need to have a key, and an additional form of immobilation (ie mech or elec).
But as you say, the 'key' is only mentioned in the glossary, and there have been those who have passed with a button and a immobilser. It will certainly be something I will be checking with my tester prior to my IVA date.





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The Black Flash

posted on 21/5/14 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
That'd make sense.
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