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pewe

posted on 23/12/15 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
Access Protection Lines - enforceable?

Thanks to the local council making another residential area "Residents only" parking our road has become a dumping ground for untaxed/unlicensed vehicles, overnight and commuter parking.
Some of the bell-ends, despite polite notices left on their windscreens encroach on access protection lines making access to driveways difficult at best, impossible at worst.
So, collective, are the lines enforceable and if so by whom?
If not any practical suggestions, short of criminal damage?
TIA, Pewe10

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ianm67

posted on 23/12/15 at 12:06 PM Reply With Quote
Not enforceable by law by the looks of things:










Always biting off more than I can chew.....

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pewe

posted on 23/12/15 at 12:11 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks - that's what my local councillor replied.
However someone-else sent me this which seems to indicate plod or even PCSO's could take action:Highway obstruction
I've gone back to him and asked for his thoughts - watch this space....
Cheers, Pewe

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nick205

posted on 23/12/15 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
Can't advise as to enforce-ability, I suspect it's one of those good will things down to the motorist.

That said, our primary school has added double yellow lines and attracted police presence to instill better parent parking skills - there are some dozy people around






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nick205

posted on 23/12/15 at 12:15 PM Reply With Quote
A further thought, have you looked it up in the highway code?

Could be enforce-able depending on what it says.






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r1_pete

posted on 23/12/15 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
A tatty old land rover or similar parked in my drive would be my answer, 'cause this problems manoeuvring out if you wish'

15 or so years back, maybe more, when the school runs started to take off, one of the locals put a fork lift in his front driveway, with a notice on stating any cars obstructing his drive would be removed.....

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Charlie_Zetec

posted on 23/12/15 at 01:27 PM Reply With Quote
I thought you were not allowed to obstruct access to privately-owned property? Personally, I'd put a sign up on the driveway/garden saying that "Any vehicles found to be obstructing access to private property will be forcibly removed, and we accept no liability for any damaged caused as a result." Have a word with a local 4x4 owner with a tow strap, and I'm sure if they were to move the obstructing vehicle so that it blocked the highway, the Council would soon get interested....





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micksalt

posted on 23/12/15 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Charlie_Zetec
I thought you were not allowed to obstruct access to privately-owned property?


Not so much for access, but to prevent egress to the public highway is in breach of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Section 54

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cliftyhanger

posted on 23/12/15 at 02:14 PM Reply With Quote
Yep, my understanding is that if you are blocked on your drive and cannot get out, the police will get involved (but it takes a while)
They are not interested if you cannot get onto your driveway.

However, if vehicles are not taxed/insured/mot'd etc (so easy to check) then teh police really ought to have a look. Or at least DVLA.

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theconrodkid

posted on 23/12/15 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
where i used to live,one of my wanktard neighbours parked on my drive so i couldnt get out,i called plod and they came,he drove it up the road where they promptly nicked him for no tax





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rusty nuts

posted on 23/12/15 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
I once came home and found a rep parking in a private parking place taking up two spaces so I couldn't park without blocking my or my neighbours drives . When asked if he could move forwards a touch he replied" you'll have to wait " so I parked close to his front bumper and moved another car as close to his rear bumper as I could then told him he would have to wait. Within 15minutes he wanted to go but I made him wait 3hours . He never parked there again!
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blakep82

posted on 23/12/15 at 08:29 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.sgs-engineering.com/garage-equipment/wheel-dollies/ws2000-680kg-wheel-skates

these, or a set of 4, will make a useful addition for moving your car around in he garage, i'm not suggesting it gets used anywhere else of course





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joneh

posted on 23/12/15 at 08:50 PM Reply With Quote
I quite often fantasise about owning a tatty old Landrover with bull bars....

We get a lot of curb parked cars that block buggy access on the pavement. Amazingly though, I still manage to get by. Just need a small run up.

[Edited on 23/12/15 by joneh]

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 24/12/15 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
We can all fantasize about how to solve this, but my experience clearly concludes that any attempt to do anything untoward with a car obstructing your driveway will result in you being arrested for criminal damage.

Even positioning a trolley jack under the rear axle of a van and edging it back a bit... it really is a terrible situation. The Police don't want to know about an obstructing vehicle, untaxed, uninsured - but they sure as hell seem interested in you when you take your own action.

Only way seems to be put up and shut up with the 'me, me, me' generation.

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MikeR

posted on 24/12/15 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
Unfortunately you're right, which is why a couple of obstacles front and rear of the offending vehicle is probably
the best bet - especially if you have a warning sign access required at all times for deliveries

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nick205

posted on 24/12/15 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
Guy local to me insists on parking his Audi Q7 at the end of his drive on Saturdays during footy season. His house is last on the road into the park where footy training takes place. He gets parked in regardless and in my view would be better staying in bed rather than moving his car. It's also worth pointing out that the park and footy training pre-dates his house by many years as well.






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