irvined
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 07:54 AM |
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Velcro and Seating
Hello
I have a pair of cobra seats via cashy (nice one mate.) can I velcro them in, or do they need to be bolted?
Cheers
David
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Humbug
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 08:37 AM |
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Nice one! 
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RazMan
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 08:55 AM |
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Seriously? 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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benji106
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 08:56 AM |
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Nah surely not?
-Everything in excess-
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jos
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 09:04 AM |
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I do hope your joking even considering velcroing in your seats.
Bolt them please using 8.8 grade bolts.
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Krismc
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 09:06 AM |
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.............sorrry still laughing..........
.......bolt them in with the above bolts and use some big washers to stop them pulling through!
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 11:13 AM |
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Why is everybody ridiculing the velcro idea?????
Why do they need to be bolted???
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Mix
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 11:22 AM |
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Rear end shunt springs to mind 
Mick
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Peteff
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:00 PM |
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Rear end shunt springs to mind
He's not velcroing his belts in, why should it make it any worse? I don't understand his logic but if he has the technology I've
seen this used to assemble furniture and it really grips if you have the industrial stuff.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:03 PM |
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Rear end shunt??? The seat will be pressed against the rear bulkhead and floor and will be trapped there by harnesses, how will it's fixings
have any bearing on the situation??
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oliwb
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:05 PM |
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Yeh, really don't understand this fascination everyone seems to have on locost with over-engineering their seats in place. I'm not saying
that velcro is a good idea, but there have been arguments in the past about whether threaded rod is strong enough. The seat belts are the bits that
keep you in the car not the seat! Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:34 PM |
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That's what I think too.. So long as the seatbelts don't use the seat as a structral element then there shoud'nt be a problem??
Bolting the seat down might help I guess if it's a bucket seat, and you have a side impact?
Dan
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MikeR
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:41 PM |
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If he's got a good 4 point harness (i know he has i was with him when he got it) then the harness holds him in place. The velcro / bolts are
there to hold the seat in place when he's not in it, when he's getting into it.
When he mentioned it at stoneleigh i pulled a face like everyone else ....... but ......
how do you think they attach the overhead lockers in jumbo jets???????
I'll give you a clue, two large strips of industrial fabric, one side has hooks, the other loops! I kid you not.
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RazMan
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 12:54 PM |
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What about sideway forces? You are taking a hairpin, the rear wheels drift out, you are enjoying the moment ...... and then your seat rotates or moves
sideways (only a fraction) and you lose all 'feel' and over compensate the steering or a little too much throttle due to the movement of
the seat and ........
Sorry but you will never convince me that a strip of velcro is as secure as a good old fashioned nut & bolt. You might as well sit on a bean bag!
[Edited on 1-5-06 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 01:04 PM |
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If the seat can move within the chassis then I agree.
I assumed that the seat in question was a tight fit into the chassis and the only direction of movement available to it was forwards!
I would not recommend fitting a "free standing" seat with velcro for obvious reasons, but "drop-in" squab and backrest type
seats have been fitted with velcro successfully for years.
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jos
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 01:27 PM |
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theyre cobras so not cushions attached to floor & rear panel
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Mix
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 01:36 PM |
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Rear end shunt
I wasn't aware that all seats were hard up against the bulkhead, in which case a rear end shunt could have them tipping back and increasing the
chance of whiplash type injuries.
Just my opinion though
Mick
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irvined
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 09:14 AM |
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Looks like i'll be bolting them in then.
I had considered velcro because its strong, You would be amazed what is held in by velcro, and the fact the seat can't really go anywhere anyway
since its wedged in between the bulkhead, me, and the rest of the cockpit, and its not a structural thing really since the belts are bolted ito the
chassis etc, i'm just being lazy, bolts it is 
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 09:50 AM |
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so the seat wont move just because your harnessed in
great in theory
apparently petrol dripping onto an extremely hot exhaust is safe because it needs a spark to ignite!!
anyone wanna sit in a car whilst we find out
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Peteff
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 10:34 AM |
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Yeah, I'll do it..
It's got to be your car though.... I don't recall anyone asking about that though. I'm also thinking of fitting a tap on the side of
the block in place of a blanking plug so I can have hot water for mashing, I don't need antifreeze for the summer. If nobody tries these things
we'll never have any innovation.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 10:50 AM |
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You can pass SVA with drop-in seats (I believe the manual mentions them). As someone said, you can't go forward because of the belts, you
can't go back because the bulkhead's in the way and, in my case, I couldn't go left or right 'cos I'm a snug fit!
I wouldn't mind using velcro for a drop-in seat as it'll keep them in place when you're getting in or out. For a proper frame seat
like the Cobra I would bolt them in so they didn't flop about when boarding or exiting. You'd be surprised how much you have to lean on
the seat at those times!
David
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 02:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
so the seat wont move just because your harnessed in
great in theory
apparently petrol dripping onto an extremely hot exhaust is safe because it needs a spark to ignite!!
anyone wanna sit in a car whilst we find out
Yea, done it, and there was no fire, but wouldn't be something I'd do by choice!!!
Fuel pipe chafed through on my old manta gte and sprayed fuel on the exhaust manifold.
Middle of the night, on my own, middle of nowhere, pre me having a mobile phone...............
drove it 20 miles home like it, exhaust so hot the petrol evaporated off instantly, just hoped no stray HT sparks set it off!
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 05:03 PM |
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Can't vouch for SVA but after SVA we had our seats held in by velcro although they were not bucket seats.
Roadkill - Lee
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caber
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 05:19 PM |
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Tap on the engine block for mashing! High Iron content bet you won't poo for a week! Seriously youwould need to make sure your waterways were
pristine otherwise you will have rusty tea!
I think you can get velcro anchors that are rated to specific weights but not easily. The passenger seat can become a flying hazzard if it is not
ocupied. Looking at my build I don't think there will be anywhere to go sideways I am planning to put some panels padded with camping foam
either side and a bench type seat across the back, not sure how it will be fixed. I got an MOT fail for loose backs on one of my Landies last year
even though that's how they were originally fitted. I had to retro fit the little leather straps that come on some later landy seats.
Caber
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MikeR
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| posted on 2/5/06 at 05:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
so the seat wont move just because your harnessed in
great in theory
apparently petrol dripping onto an extremely hot exhaust is safe because it needs a spark to ignite!!
anyone wanna sit in a car whilst we find out
Done it as well, on a mini but in the garage, couldn't figure out where all this water was coming from........ puddling on the garage floor.
Hmmm, whats that smell ??
AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGHHHH, DAD STOP THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!
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