givemethebighammer
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| posted on 22/6/03 at 08:38 PM |
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Steering lock
Do you have to have a steering lock to pass the SVA ? Only info I can find is that an anti theft device (mechanical or electrical) must be fitted and
not be capable of operating once the engine is running by any of the cars occupants ??
I have a battery cut off switch fitted under the bonnet ??
thanks
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LoCostLancs
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 08:41 AM |
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I believe you do have to have a steering lock. I dont think just a battery cut off switch would get you through. im sure someone will be along to tell
me diffrent if im wrong
Tiger? No thanks!
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StuartA
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 11:10 AM |
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The way we interpretted the SVA regs was that you didn't need the steering lock so long as you have some other sort of anti theft device as you
state. I would have thought the cut off switch follows the guidelines, but we have got a nice bike alarm that we picked up with the blade engine. 
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wicket
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 11:45 AM |
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From the SVA manual
"...in addition to the normal ignition switch, the vehicle is permanently fitted with an "anti theft" device that can be activated
to prevent the vehicle being driven or moved under its own power".
It can be mechanical, electrical, electronic or a combination of these.
I think that suggests that you need 2.
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GO
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 11:55 AM |
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quote:
...in addition to the normal ignition switch... I think that suggests that you need 2
yeah, but isn't one of those the ignition switch, not including the steering lock. Sounds to me like you have your ignition switch which is one
anti-theft device, and then you have at least one more, which on most cars is the steering lock. Surely you can replace the steering lock with an
immobiliser??
I'm hoping this is the case cos otherwise I'm gonna need two keys, and the obligatory biug red button, to start my car!! One as the actual
ignition switch and one to disengage the steering lock!
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SeaBass
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 12:09 PM |
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Surely the steering lock has issues with the following from the SVA manual:
Reasons or failure
1. An anti-theft device not fitted.
2 a. A mandatory anti-theft device inoperative
b. An anti-theft device
operates on a part of the braking system
incorporating a mechanical' part that acts upon a system used to control the vehicle (e.g. steering control, accelerator control)
can be activated while the engine is running
allows the engine to be started before the device has been deactivated.
the activation of which is not a distinct and separate function from that of stopping the engine.
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wicket
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 02:30 PM |
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I was talking to a guy who had recently been through SVA & he had the standard ignition switch/column lock & he had to fit a secondary
'anti-theft' device; his solution was a battery disconnect under the dash board in the passenger side.
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StuartA
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 03:59 PM |
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That's as maybe, but it doesn't answer the original question of 'do you need the steering lock?'. I would say that you need
ignition and another method, which could be the steering lock or an immobilser. However, does SVA man class the steering lock as being separate from
the ignition switch, being that they both operate using the key?
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highspeeddirt
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 06:05 PM |
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The easiest way to find out is to call the SVA centre you are going to use and ask them. From what I've been told Gillingham want an ignition
switch and some other immobiliser which can be a simple kill switch. The steering lock seems to be irrelevant. But as each SVA inspector seems to have
his on take on the regs, check first. I am trying to build from the regs as I go and also reading what other cars fail on but before I book an SVA I
will speak to the Inspector about any grey areas to see how they want it done. As a final point I would say that a steering lock does not stop a
vehicle being moved under it's own power, although corners would be a problem 
Steve
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 23/6/03 at 08:25 PM |
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Thanks guys, I'll call Derby SVA to ask. Reason I originally asked the question was because I have fitted some peugeot 106 stalks to my sierra
column. I did this to put as many controls on the stalks rather than on the dash (figured the stalks were exempt from testing). However the wiper
stalk is very close to the ignition key, so I figured that if I removed the ignition barrel and the steering lock mechanism carefully with a grinder.
I could put a dash mounted ignition switch and push start button on the dash to the right of the steering wheel (also exempt from testing).
Try to be clever and make life easy for yourself and Mr SVA gets you back another way. I'll let you know once I have called Derby
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 24/6/03 at 12:40 PM |
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Just been to Derby SVA
You don't need the steering lock if you have the ignition switch (method 1) and a battery cut off switch (method 2)
but that is Derby's opinion
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