Wadders
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| posted on 6/7/03 at 08:11 PM |
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SVA Looms large
Got my SVA date in the post yesteday.
22nd July 8.00am at Beverley. Shiiiiiiiiiite!
reality bites, i thought i was ready but seem to have forgotten about a hundred things, the next two weeks are going to be busy. Looking forward to
the drive over though!!!!
Al. 
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highspeeddirt
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 01:21 AM |
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Hi Alan
Car's looking great, I hope all goes well with the SVA. Are those carbon/kevlar seats from Play's Kool? I was thinking of getting the
fiberglass ones from them, the're more in my budget, and seem to be the same design. If so what are they like for support, comfort and fit
etc.?
Cheers Steve
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Wadders
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 02:12 PM |
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Cheers Steve
yes they are from Playskool, they seem to be ok for fit and comfort, not sure about long journeys though!
alternatively when i went to MK to pick up the bonnet scoop, their fiberglass/carbon supplier was there, and he showed me a prototype seat which i
think MK are going to be selling, looked exactly like a superlight caterham one, Very light and sexy, the one he showed me was black fibreglass, buy
he said he could do carbon as well, dunno how much but i reckon they will be reasonable from Martin.
Al
]Originally posted by highspeeddirt
Hi Alan
Car's looking great, I hope all goes well with the SVA. Are those carbon/kevlar seats from Play's Kool? I was thinking of getting the
fiberglass ones from them, the're more in my budget, and seem to be the same design. If so what are they like for support, comfort and fit
etc.?
Cheers Steve
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greggors84
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| posted on 7/7/03 at 11:37 PM |
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Did he say when MK are thinkin of selling them? I take it u mean the R500 ones?
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Wadders
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| posted on 8/7/03 at 08:10 PM |
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Yes just like the R500, but sorry he didn't say when they would be ready for sale, i'd give MK a ring if i were you.
Al.
i]Originally posted by greggors84
Did he say when MK are thinkin of selling them? I take it u mean the R500 ones?
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Avoneer
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| posted on 8/7/03 at 10:09 PM |
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Hi,
Where abouts in Leeds are you and do you have anyone going to SVA with you?
Cheers,
Pat (Dewsbury - www.mytigeravon.co.uk)
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Wadders
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| posted on 8/7/03 at 10:37 PM |
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Hi Pat
I live near Rothwell. A mate is maybe going to follow me over in my van (just in case of mishaps) but he had to check his shifts and i aint heard yet.
if you fancy coming over, your more than welcome, but unfortunately it will be an early start, i want to go the scenic route!
ATB
Al.
i]Originally posted by Avoneer
Hi,
Where abouts in Leeds are you and do you have anyone going to SVA with you?
Cheers,
Pat (Dewsbury - www.mytigeravon.co.uk)
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Avoneer
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| posted on 9/7/03 at 09:41 PM |
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Wouldn't mind tagging along if that's ok?
Dont mind early starts either......
Pat...
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Wadders
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| posted on 10/7/03 at 06:26 PM |
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You have mail.
i]Originally posted by Avoneer
Wouldn't mind tagging along if that's ok?
Dont mind early starts either......
Pat...
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Avoneer
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| posted on 10/7/03 at 09:31 PM |
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So do you...
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Mark H
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| posted on 25/7/03 at 12:32 PM |
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Well, how did it go??
Hi Al,
How did it go? We're all waiting!!
Is it  or 
Mark Harrison and
Q986 KCP back from the dead...
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 08:25 AM |
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Hi Mark.
Sadly i failed, with a longish list to put right, some of the stuff quite legitimate, other things a bit annoying, as essentially they are design
faults. So for peeps thinking of using Bevereley and in particular owners of Stuart Taylor cars, heres the list.
Fail List
1- tunnel edges of insufficient radius
2-Exhaust bracket and clamp insufficient radius (i neatly covered this with aluminium foil held on with twisted ally wire ,this was deemed too
temporary)
3-No degree of self centering on steering.
4-Fuel tank cap has no effective seal (alloy tank supplied by ST)
5-Fuel filler neck more than 23.8mm diameter ](only applies to cars fitted with a CAT)
6-Front flexy hoses fouling (too long, supplied by ST)
7-Fuel tank mounting of insufficient strength (alloy tank from ST, needs top bracing to chassis)]
8- headlight brackets of isufficient strength (integral part of ST chassis)
9-Brake balance bar not locked (i nylocked this, but it has to be pinned)
10-Brake distribution criteria not met, rear wheels locked before front.
11- speedo outside tolerance
Nearly fail list
I managed to argue/plead/beg my way out of the following.
1- lower seat belt anchorage points not triangulated/strong enough.
2- mirrors too low to obtain correct angles of view.
3- Harness eye bolts not marked as high tensile/lack of supporting paperwork from Willans to say bolts are high tensile.
All said and done i'm not too unhappy with the list ,as its all easily fixed, and on a positive note, the car passed the dreaded emmisions test
(he even helped me tweak it during the test so it would pass) also of note is the fact he gave me 5 minutes of time on the rollers to set up the
speedo, unfortunately i couldn't get the frigging Yellowbox to work?
I had to laugh at him failing me on my “temporary” exhaust bracket covering seeing how the front suspension was covered in sodding pipe lagging!,
maybe he thought this was permenant?
One snippet of info which made me feel better, only 3% of kitcars pass first time at Beverley! and most of those are cars presented by peeps who have
experienced the test before.
Happily the car drives ace, and the drive over to Beverley was a blast, BEC's are quiiiiiick!
can't wait to get on the road for real now.
Apparently a re-test date only takes a few days. watch this space!!
i]Originally posted by Mark H
Hi Al,
How did it go? We're all waiting!!
Is it or
i]Originally posted by Mark H
Hi Al,
How did it go? We're all waiting!!
Is it or
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Jasper
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 11:59 AM |
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Good luck with the retest, glad you enjoyed the blast!
BTW - how you gonna sort the self centering steering??
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 12:50 PM |
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Cheers Jasper
she's booked in for a full suspension set-up corner weighting and wheel alignment, i'm hoping this will sort the steering.
i]Originally posted by Jasper
Good luck with the retest, glad you enjoyed the blast!
BTW - how you gonna sort the self centering steering??
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Jasper
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 02:07 PM |
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I've set up my wheel alignment to toe in 1 deg, camper at 1 deg in a top, and the castor is between 3 and 5 deg as it should be, still
absolutely no self centering!
Let me know how you get on. I've heard that a way to get this is to put a lot of camber in at the top, but not tried it yet.
[Edited on 27/7/03 by Jasper]
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 02:12 PM |
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Oh bugger thats a bit worrying, i dont want to spend money on getting her set up to drive well, if i need to mess about with the settings to achieve
self centering.
]Originally posted by Jasper
I've set up my wheel alignment to toe in 1 deg, camper at 1 deg in a top, and the castor is between 3 and 5 deg as it should be, still
absolutely no self centering!
Let me know how you get on. I've heard that a way to get this is to put a lot of camber in at the top, but tried it yet.
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Jasper
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 02:27 PM |
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Exactly, I'm sure it was Mark at Mach#1 who told me about it, maybe worth calling him, then set it up properly afterwards.
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mr loo
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 05:11 PM |
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I asked martin from mk about self centering on the indy for sva,he said toe out and plenty of it worth a try
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Northy
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 07:31 PM |
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I've heard of people putting springs behind the gaitors!
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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craig1410
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 09:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Northy
I've heard of people putting springs behind the gaitors!
What kind of springs? Valve springs or something? They'd have to have quite a bit of pressure to reproduce proper self-centering.
Someone's pulling your leg surely...
I must say this is all a bit worrying as I thought that as long as you had the proper 5 degrees of Castor then you'd be okay. Is it a problem
with insufficient scrub radius as I would expect adding scrub radius would increase the effective "leverage" of the road on each wheel.
What wheel offset are you running (Jasper and Wadders)?
Cheers,
Craig.
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 10:19 PM |
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Mine are ET35.
]Originally posted by craig1410
What wheel offset are you running (Jasper and Wadders)?
Cheers,
Craig.
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craig1410
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 10:35 PM |
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Ah!
I wonder if you were to fit ET19 if your self centering would make the grade?
It might be worth checking, even if it meant fitting a set of old steel wheels just for the test it would be worth it to get a pass.
I don't know if you are aware but there has been a lot of discussion on another thread about what the scrub radius should be for optimum
handling and generally most people agree that it should be minimised in most cases.
However, it may be that the Locost "needs" some extra scrub to give self-centering and can perhaps tolerate more scrub due to light
weight, especially with BEC cars.
Are you in a position to try some different front wheels and see if it makes the car self centre better? It would be very interesting and may solve
your problem into the bargain.
Let us know what you find and good luck with the retest!
Cheers,
Craig.
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loafersmate
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| posted on 27/7/03 at 10:36 PM |
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Well I must be in the 3% coz I passed first time at Beverley!! On a more helpful note, I had to sort my self centring on the day, as someone else
suggested toe the wheels OUT a lot and hey presto self centring. Just don't try driving far outside the test centre before moving them back!!
Ben
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Alistair
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| posted on 28/7/03 at 04:59 PM |
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I used pipe lagging on the exhaust mount at beverly and the examiner accepted it.
For the brake pipes fouling problem, I used a piece of rubber fuel pipe which i cut down the middle and slid it over the brake pipe.
Wadders, where is your manifold and exhaust from?
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Wadders
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| posted on 5/8/03 at 07:31 PM |
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Hi Alistair
The manifold is a homemade cut and shut jobby, made from stainless mandrel bends, the silencer is a standard GSXR 750 can.
Wadders, where is your manifold and exhaust from?
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