blakep82
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:03 PM |
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i feel labour have made this the nanny state we all keep moaning about.
would it have been any different with a different government for the last 13 (?) years? who knows. there's no way of knowing.
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul (Notts)
Pensions - look back at the other parties records.
£5 billion goes missing every year from Pension schemes and that IS down to Brown, no-one else, his idea as a nice free and hidden tax, sadly it
hasn't been free for me or anyone else who's pension scheme has gone up in smoke, don't defend him to me over this one.
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Benzine
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
i feel labour have made this the nanny state we all keep moaning about.
would it have been any different with a different government for the last 13 (?) years? who knows. there's no way of knowing.
Yeah there's a few "we'll never know" things. Like people generally being nastier on the streets. When I was a lad (i.e. pre
'97) we all used to play on the streets on our bikes and would never get abuse from anyone. Now on the same street no school kids are playing
and douchebags roam free to taunt and swear at people. And lads mags, when I was at school the most you'd see on loaded or FHM was a girl in a
bikini, now it's all women with huge wabs holding them or a couple of ladies holding each other, it's mad.
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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bmseven
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:37 PM |
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Well if Dopey Dave gets in you better ALL brace yourselfs when he start off with his 6Bn cuts.
Having suufered what a Tory Government has done before with 17% Interest rates and Negative Equity I would rather be where we stand today.
Brown was succesful Chancellor since 1999 he may not be the most personable but then is smarmy Dave any better, I think not.
The state of the economy is a world wide affair not localised to the UK and if Cameroon makes it any better for me I will eat my hat
What we need is a Revolution - Power to the People
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Bures Pit anyone?
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 07:52 PM |
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Originally posted by Benzine
And lads mags, when I was at school the most you'd see on loaded or FHM was a girl in a bikini, now it's all women with huge wabs holding
them or a couple of ladies holding each other, it's mad.
On a similar theme, do you remember years ago when teenage mutant ninja turtles were renamed 'hero turtle' because ninja was regarded too
violent? And now, we have the 'Saw' series of movies. How things have changed (for the much worse). But, that is social decay, and cannot
specifically be put at anyones door.
I blame the media, though im not sure why. I have a nagging idea at the back of my mind about news travelling too fast and causing positive feedback
loops, but the idea just wont form fully. What starts as a small blip is suddenly amplified across the world, whereupon it feeds itself into something
bigger.
[Edited on 10/5/10 by JoelP]
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 08:24 PM |
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Originally posted by Benzine
I love the idea of ID cards, indefinate retension of DNA profiles, 42 days detention and a million dead Iraqis. I LOVE LABOUR! ^__^
Saddam allegedly murdered a million of his people, and the unecessary Iran-Iraq war left another million dead. So you could say, the toppling actually
saved 1m net lives over the next 30 years.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 10/5/10 at 09:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by clockwork
UK debt did decrease for a time under labour... but not for very long.
See the institute for fiscal studies if you want to download some figures on the matter:
www.ifs.org.uk
Yup - had a look and this one makes interesting reading..
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to quote page 3 section 2
"When Labour took office in 1997, the public finances were already starting to improve following the deterioration seen during the recession of
the early 1990's, thanks to the substantial tax increases and cuts to public spending implemented by the previous Conservative government since
1993. During Labour's first four years in office, the public finances strengthened further, as the new government stuck to the tight public
spending plans laid out by the Conservatives. The following seven years however were characterised by fiscal drift. By the eve of the financial
crisis, this had left the UK with one of the largest structural budget deficits in the developed world."
Not good - and cant be blamed on the financial crisis then!!
And with the financial crisis it only gets worse...
link
So for 2009 alone we as a country have spent nearly £160 billion we didnt have, and now the total is around £1 trillion. Quite a debt to have - and
one thats not going to be improved by the spend mentality of team Gordon.
Unfortunately there's only one way that this is going to improve, and that involves decisions that we're not going to like (but must be
done for long term benefit)
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woodster
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| posted on 11/5/10 at 09:22 AM |
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bye bye Gordon Clown you old bigot i for one will miss your Mr Bean politics  ........... Get the TORIES in to sort out labour over spending as
usual ...... and to the rest of the labour party if anyone of you had had a back bone and got rid of him months ago you may have won the election
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 11/5/10 at 10:08 AM |
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The only people I'd trust to run this country post on this forum
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 11/5/10 at 06:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
The only people I'd trust to run this country post on this forum
Fozzie for Prime Minister??
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 15/5/10 at 11:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
The only people I'd trust to run this country post on this forum
Fozzie for Prime Minister??
Yep, Fesycresy as Deputy, there are a few people here good at maths so there'll be a fight for Chancellor of the Ex-checker.. I'm quite
sure the Locostbuilders Party could do quite a good job 
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