Richard Quinn
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
WHAT'S AN RR???
It's an Indy especially for pirates!
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scootz
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:37 PM |
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It's Evolution Baby!
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Sure even after logbooking, a car still needs to meet the current standards at each event?
bit of a silly question that............... they have the logbook to prove its to spec then gets check by the scrutineers same as everybody else
time to put this to bed and eat that humble pie because non of you are man enough to admit you were wrong
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Puddle Dodgers Club
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:39 PM |
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Technical Specifications
1.3.1. Main, Front and Lateral Rollbars. These frames
or hoops must be made in one piece without joints.
Their construction must be smooth and even, without
ripples or cracks. The vertical part of the main rollbar
must be as straight as possible and as close as
possible to the interior contour of the bodyshell. The
front leg of a front rollbar or a lateral rollbar must be
straight, or if it is not possible, must follow the
windscreen pillars and have only one bend with its
lower vertical part.
That quote above is direct from the Blue Book online.
I really would like to know how the MK cage passes and satisfies this part of the regs. I really do. Please tell me. There is no way on this earth
that the guys at MIRA, who do the MSA certification testing, would let that go.
Who do I have to bribe/sweet talk to get another alternative cage passed, instead of spending £1,200 /cage to get them certified?
Cheers,
Nev.
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scootz
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:46 PM |
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I suspect that the 'RR' has a different roll-cage then!?
It's Evolution Baby!
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 07:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I suspect that the 'RR' has a different roll-cage then!?
I would certainly hope so!
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 08:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Neville Jones
Technical Specifications
1.3.1. Main, Front and Lateral Rollbars. These frames
or hoops must be made in one piece without joints.
Their construction must be smooth and even, without
ripples or cracks. The vertical part of the main rollbar
must be as straight as possible and as close as
possible to the interior contour of the bodyshell. The
front leg of a front rollbar or a lateral rollbar must be
straight, or if it is not possible, must follow the
windscreen pillars and have only one bend with its
lower vertical part.
That quote above is direct from the Blue Book online.
I really would like to know how the MK cage passes and satisfies this part of the regs. I really do. Please tell me. There is no way on this earth
that the guys at MIRA, who do the MSA certification testing, would let that go.
Who do I have to bribe/sweet talk to get another alternative cage passed, instead of spending £1,200 /cage to get them certified?
Cheers,
Nev.
Does not really matter what you think.......... the race car of dannys and the duratec one have msa logbooks the powers that be have decided that they
are fit for purpose end of stop trying to make something out of nothing and move on
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Puddle Dodgers Club
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welderman
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 08:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
WHAT'S AN RR???
Its close i suppose
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[Edited on 7/4/11 by welderman]
Thank's, Joe 
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 08:15 PM |
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Cage looks the same to me... Photos say its the MK Indy Busa RR
 
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austin man
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 08:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Neville Jones
Technical Specifications
1.3.1. Main, Front and Lateral Rollbars. These frames
or hoops must be made in one piece without joints.
Their construction must be smooth and even, without
ripples or cracks. The vertical part of the main rollbar
must be as straight as possible and as close as
possible to the interior contour of the bodyshell. The
front leg of a front rollbar or a lateral rollbar must be
straight, or if it is not possible, must follow the
windscreen pillars and have only one bend with its
lower vertical part.
That quote above is direct from the Blue Book online.
I really would like to know how the MK cage passes and satisfies this part of the regs. I really do. Please tell me. There is no way on this earth
that the guys at MIRA, who do the MSA certification testing, would let that go.
Who do I have to bribe/sweet talk to get another alternative cage passed, instead of spending £1,200 /cage to get them certified?
Cheers,
Nev.
I dont believe you have to bribe sweet talk anyone, appears you paid a lot when you bought your cage and to infer bribery I think is very close to the
bone. Obviously Mk when they designed their cage designed it around the regulations your supplier obviously interpreted the regs and spec differently.
Dont hold it against MK for your financial blunder
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Neville Jones
Technical Specifications
1.3.1. Main, Front and Lateral Rollbars. These frames
or hoops must be made in one piece without joints.
Their construction must be smooth and even, without
ripples or cracks. The vertical part of the main rollbar
must be as straight as possible and as close as
possible to the interior contour of the bodyshell. The
front leg of a front rollbar or a lateral rollbar must be
straight, or if it is not possible, must follow the
windscreen pillars and have only one bend with its
lower vertical part.
That quote above is direct from the Blue Book online.
I really would like to know how the MK cage passes and satisfies this part of the regs. I really do. Please tell me. There is no way on this earth
that the guys at MIRA, who do the MSA certification testing, would let that go.
Who do I have to bribe/sweet talk to get another alternative cage passed, instead of spending £1,200 /cage to get them certified?
Cheers,
Nev.
Rather than argue the point on here (and none of us can settle it) why don't you contact an MSA scrute and ask them (they're all in the
Blue Book since you quote it) as they obviously think it's compliant
[Edited on 7/4/11 by norfolkluego]
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austin man
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 09:44 PM |
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its already settled, the MK raced at Mallory in the allcomers and went through the scrutineering, two have been inspected and have passed and awaiting
their books.
Its just sour grapes I think I wouldnt mind it would appear the person who is constantly bringing MK threads into negative ones doesn't even own
on never has and doesnt even drive one. Probably been beaten by too many MK's on the track.
Hopefully this will put an end to it all now
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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carpmart
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by austin man
Hopefully this will put an end to it all now
I wish it bloody would
You only live once - make the most of it!
Radical Clubsport, Kwaker motor
'94 MX5 MK1, 1.8
F10 M5 - 600bhp Daily Hack 
Range Rover Sport - Wife's Car
Mercedes A class - Son's Car
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ajw
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:25 PM |
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mk indy rr
Hi guys great news to hear my new car is MSA logged. Its on its way to Cadwell on tuesday to test and set up. No matter what anyone says the MK guys
have been always extremely helpful and I have been emailed and called by phone for any decisions. The brief was for a car for hillclimbs and sprints
using a 2 L steel duratec with a dog gearbox from Quaife ( think I will fit sequential in the future with flat shift). My real choice in engine would
be 2.5 millington ( odd one comes up for sale ex rally car in Ireland ).
Thanks Danny and MK again and its up to me to prove the cars performance !
AJW
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austin man
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:34 PM |
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what time are you testing is it a day session
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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ajw
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:40 PM |
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cadwell
Austin man
Hope to be there early tuesday morning. I am taking a few days hols in UK. Send a message to NOC and get some pics of his car its superb ( he is
military aircraft engineer by training ! )
AJW
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austin man
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:58 PM |
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Im Just up from MK so have seen your car wish I could get out to cadwell to watch, but will be at work gutted. Hope all goes well take it easy
Cadwell can be unforgiving. Are you staying local to MK
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 08:36 AM |
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[quote
Rather than argue the point on here (and none of us can settle it) why don't you contact an MSA scrute and ask them (they're all in the
Blue Book since you quote it) as they obviously think it's compliant
I've done just that, previously, two different guys. They are as puzzled as I am. Though, to be fair to them, they operate at a different level
to 750mc . Their only comment was that a blind eye was being turned to 'mother' club racers. The only other comment was that this
highlights what is acceptable to MSA, and not to FIA.
However you look at it, the double bend is just plain poor design, from an engineering perspective, and more difficult to produce. So why do it?
As for being anti MK. I'm not. The other M**'s are no different, one in particular has produced some appalling work. As long as people
think correcting this bad work as part of 'kit car' building is acceptable, then it will persist.
Cheers,
Nev.
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austin man
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 08:24 PM |
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surely its their choice to produce the double bend it meets the requirements so is good its also been tested in a violent roll. I cant see why you
continue to appear to have such a bad opinion of MK and also seem insistent and intent on stopping them
1 Selling their cages
2 racing
3 and trying to have their cage banned
From an ousiders point of view I can only assume that you or someone you are associated with is out to make a comercial gain.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Wicksim
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 09:17 PM |
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Can't believe this one is still running, been away for a few days and thought it may have been sorted by now. The guys are building my car at
the moment for some road going fun this summer. The MK guys are always busy which must mean their product is successful. Only had dealings with Danny
and Baz both of which are very helpful. I'm very happy with the progress of the car so far, just can't wait to take it for a spin. These
warm sunning days make me even more impatient.
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austin man
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 09:53 PM |
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what are you having built the indy or the indy r and what motor, Ive never had any problems with them either
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Wicksim
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 10:01 PM |
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I went up last Saturday to to see the progress of my Indy R, White with a Hayabusa engine, half cage, paddle shift, slip diff, and flat shifter.
The wait is killing me now, they just have the electrics and dash to finish while they wait for IVA. Poor Danny, I must be the most impatient bloke
he's ever met.
Will try and stick some pics on here.
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austin man
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 10:13 PM |
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probably seen it when Ive popped in, as you say they are always busy may pop down tommorow to see the guys
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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Wicksim
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 10:19 PM |
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ah just sussed out how to get the image hope this works.
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austin man
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| posted on 8/4/11 at 10:24 PM |
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looking good
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