greggors84
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 05:36 PM |
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No Engine Number
I bought my engine (2.0l pinto) a while ago, when cleaning it up, i realised the engine number has been removed. I bought it off a mate who used it
for buggy racing, so had no need to check the engine number. He hasnt got the phone number off the bloke he bought it off, so i cant find out anything
off him.
What does this mean for SVA as the exhaust doesnt have a cat, and the engine is running twin 45s i doubt it will pass the harder emmisions tests.
Were there any pintos made after 93, or when ever the cutoff date is for the emissions test? If not surely the tester would know that there is no way
that my engine is older than that.
What can i do about it, as i dont want to get another engine as this one has had alot done to it.
Thanks
[Edited on 5/2/04 by greggors84]
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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craig1410
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 05:50 PM |
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Hi,
If I were you I'd try very very hard to find the engine number plate and then reattach it.
You might find it under the bonnet of a similar 1990ish Sierra which you may be able to locate in your local scrapyard...
Ideally buy a scrap engine of a similar type and get a receipt from the scrapyard and then "transfer" all the bits from your existing
engine onto this new engine including the block, crank, heads, camshaft, etc etc.
All hypothetical of course and I take no responsibility for the legal aspects of this!
Cheers,
Craig.
Cheers,
Craig.
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greggors84
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 05:56 PM |
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Isnt the engine number cast with the block? It looked that way anyway, if not how is it attached?
I could always say i had to remove it for some reason, any ideas?
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Carl.H
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 06:25 PM |
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On my pinto the number is stamped into the block, this number is repeated in the chassis number (first or last half)
You might be able to remove a chassis number plat from a scraped car and attach this to your engine and say the original number rusted off 
as viper says it is stamped in, i was thinking of the engine size.
[Edited on 5/2/04 by Carl.H]
I drink to make other people interesting.
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Viper
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 06:34 PM |
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the engine number on a pinto is not cast into the block it is stamped, mine looks like it was done after a long session in the pub, if i was you what
i would do is go down to your scrappy find the oldest pinto engined car you can make a note of the number, stamp it on your block then write to ford
asking them for proof of age for the sva, lets face it the sva don't care what number is on the engine all they want is proof of age. If you
want an age related plate and currently have your doner log book then just send this off to swansea with the new engine number..
Simple. 
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JoelP
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 06:36 PM |
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or just SVA it with any old crap engine in it, preferable a similar spec to keep the wiring the same. easier than swapping ancilliiaries when it
involves swapping pistons etc.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 10:10 PM |
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If you are going to clone an engine number, you could do it off your donor or a scrapyard car, the engine number is the last seven digits of a ford
chassis number, that is 2 letters and 5 numbers, the letters give the year and month of manufacture and the letters are purely sequential. I have the
decoder if you need it.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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fujiwara takumi
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| posted on 5/2/04 at 11:53 PM |
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you cant just grind one in with a dremel?
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bob
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| posted on 6/2/04 at 09:01 AM |
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Viper has given you the easy option,then write a letter to
technical information centre
FORD motor company
PO BOX 300
WALSALL
WS5 4QH
They will send you back written confirmatoion of age.
Any old block will do in the scrappies,bound to be some old tranny block there.
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02GF74
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| posted on 4/12/05 at 08:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bob
Viper has given you the easy option,then write a letter to
technical information centre
FORD motor company
PO BOX 300
WALSALL
WS5 4QH
They will send you back written confirmatoion of age.
Any old block will do in the scrappies,bound to be some old tranny block there.
Has anyone contacted Ford over this? I guess the best they can do is supply confirmation of the age, given say engine block casting number, which is
enough for SVA?
I take it they won't or can't give an engine number for you to use. So what number goes on the V5 and which body allocates it?
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iank
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| posted on 5/12/05 at 12:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Has anyone contacted Ford over this? I guess the best they can do is supply confirmation of the age, given say engine block casting number, which is
enough for SVA?
I take it they won't or can't give an engine number for you to use. So what number goes on the V5 and which body allocates it?
Ford are the one that stamp the engine number onto the block, and they keep records of the date they did that, i.e. the date of manufacture which is
what SVA care about.
The certainly won't issue another number for the block, cloning blocks is rather illegal, which is why you have to transfer all the gubbins from
the engine without id into one with a number
Casting numbers are used for years, sometimes decades so aren't very useful for dating the particular block manufacture. I'm not even
certain Ford would guarantee the last date they used a particular casting number.
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