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Findlay234

posted on 20/3/09 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
OIL LEAK!!!!

Ive just found a small oil leak from the bell housing, dont know whether its the engine or the gearbox but its not a good sign...... its not a good sign and im thinking i should get the engine out to take a look.... ooer...

[Edited on 20/3/09 by Findlay234]

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wicket

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:02 AM Reply With Quote
If it's the diff that's leaking why do you need to to take out the engine/gearbox to have look?
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Findlay234

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
EDITED:: Meant bell housing....
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Thinking about it

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:13 AM Reply With Quote
Engine oil and gearbox oil have a different smell. That should identify.
Either way it will have to come out.

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tegwin

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:21 AM Reply With Quote
As above... if you sniff it and it makes you start wreching... its gearbox oil... if you smell it and it smells vaguly of petrol, its engine oil





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wilkingj

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thinking about it
Engine oil and gearbox oil have a different smell. That should identify.
Either way it will have to come out.

That depends, some gearboxes run on engine oil.

My Old Series 3 Landy run on EP80 in everything except the engine.

My 110 Landy had Red Automatic Transmission Fluid in the gearbox (LT77 box, same as in my Viento).

My Mates Sierra 4x4 used Mobil One, the reccomended oil made the gearbox notchy. the mobil 1 fixed that.

Some geaboxes have lubrication pumps in them and cannot cope with EP80/90 gear oil. The LT77 and R380 (its successor) is a prime example of this. Its fitted to all Landrovers, a lot of SD1's in fact almost any Leyleand car that used the Rover V8.

So yes you are right, EP gear oil smells different to Engine oil. But it depends on whats in your box.

Usually Engine oil is Black (dirty) and gear oil is still relatively clean.

It could be either a rear crank seal, or the front shaft seal on the box. Eitherway its an engine out if its in a Se7en.






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Findlay234

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:30 AM Reply With Quote
Well the oil is clean but then the car has only been run shortly... The gearbox has gear oil in it and the oil on the floor seems more like engine oil but im no expert. Ill have to have the engine out when i get a chance... gutted...... and times not on my side what with hopefully getting an SVA in before the end of april......... hmmm, gonna be a lot of very late evenings.......
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Paul TigerB6

posted on 20/3/09 at 11:38 AM Reply With Quote
Sounds like its going to be the crankshaft oil seal from your description. That means removing the clutch and flywheel too to get to it. Once the engine is out though it shouldnt be too bad a job






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Guinness

posted on 20/3/09 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
I'm a BEC man myself so unfamiliar with this gearbox / engine interface.

But, does it really need fixing now? Before SVA? I mean, you aren't going to be doing loads of miles are you. The SVA test is pretty much static, with the exception of the self centring.

If the oil is pouring out then engine out and fix it. If (IMHO) its a little drip then "they all do that".

Get it in for an SVA, even if he fails you for the leak, then you have 6 months to re-test. Even if the leak damages the clutch plates, then they are going to be a lot cheaper to replace than the cost difference between SVA and IVA?


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DarrenW

posted on 20/3/09 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
I'm a BEC man myself so unfamiliar with this gearbox / engine interface.

But, does it really need fixing now? Before SVA? I mean, you aren't going to be doing loads of miles are you. The SVA test is pretty much static, with the exception of the self centring.

If the oil is pouring out then engine out and fix it. If (IMHO) its a little drip then "they all do that".

Get it in for an SVA, even if he fails you for the leak, then you have 6 months to re-test. Even if the leak damages the clutch plates, then they are going to be a lot cheaper to replace than the cost difference between SVA and IVA?


Mike



i feel compelled to ask (tongue in cheek) - what qualifications do you have for assessing oil leaks on funny little sports cars??????


Crank oil seal would be my guess. Never changed one but seem to think it shouldnt be to hard with engine out. With a few hours on your side you should do it in a couple of nights.






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yellow melos

posted on 20/3/09 at 01:17 PM Reply With Quote
If it's engine oil, check to make sure it's not coming out the rocker cover of head or any other blocked off holes ( like dizzy hole )

also what engine have you got ??

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Findlay234

posted on 20/3/09 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
4age engine, Think what im gonna do is monitor it and see how much comes out. its a drip really. mybe a puddle the size of a 50p peice after a day or two.

Im going to be warming up the engine in the next few weeks and see if that has an effect. If think ill wait untill sva. dont think ill have the time otherwise. though if i do get the time ill get onto it.

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