thunderace
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 posted on 23/8/09 at 09:02 AM |
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IVA/SVA, road tax fraud, insurance fraud
dutton on ebay
Item number: 260466357574
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big_wasa
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 09:10 AM |
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It was poted up yesterday Link
[Edited on 23/8/09 by big_wasa]
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 11:41 AM |
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I asked him when it was sva'd and i had a reply.
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hi car was built in 72 but i put into a tree and as there were no new dutton chassis still been made i bought a formula 27 chassis and brought the car
up to date using all the good bits off dutton, as the dutton was pre lit it did not need sva, thanks frank
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prawnabie
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 11:43 AM |
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Depends when he put it into the tree i suppose - there was an short (iirc) amnesty on this post SVA.
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blakep82
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 03:20 PM |
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its a good point, is it the same car if:
A you buy a kit car, strip everything off the chassis, and replace everything but the chassis?
B bend a chassis, take everything off of it and put it on a new chassis?
a bit like trigger on only fools and horses and having the same broom for 20 years, but its had 10 new handles and 15 new brushes
i don't know, i know WHY its wrong, but i don't know what makes it wrong
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Fozzie
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 03:47 PM |
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More clarification as to why it is wrong.....
direct.gov clicky linky
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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myke pocock
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 04:52 PM |
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Problem is with rules, they are either there to be broken or in the case of DVLA they are there to be misunderstood or lberally interpreted by a DVLA
minion. I know its been mentioned loads of times before but how do I get a Q plate and some others get an age related when the vehicles are virtually
identical, certainly from the point of view of donor parts and new chassis. Not complaining, just asking.
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blakep82
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 04:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
More clarification as to why it is wrong.....
direct.gov clicky linky
Fozzie
as myke says, the rules are there to be misinterpreted.
ignoring the bit in the link about kit cars and kit conversions, but just looking at REBUILT cars, it says
Vehicles that have been rebuilt using a mix of new or used parts
In order to retain the original registration mark:
cars and car-derived vans must use:
The original unmodified chassis or unaltered bodyshell (i.e. body and chassis as one unit - monocoque); or a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of
the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer or manufacturer (e.g. receipt).
to me that says an already registered kit car can have its chassis replace and keep its registration. thats just my take on it though...
ok, so the car on ebay was a dutton, and now on a F27 chassis, but the chassis is still basically the same.
supposing the original chassis was bent in the middle, and had only the damaged tubes replaced, how would that stand. where do you draw the line?
[Edited on 23/8/09 by blakep82]
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Fozzie
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 05:24 PM |
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Hmmm well having had a conversation with the DVLA over something similar a few years ago, nowt to do with kits or 7's ..... 
The head honcho got back to me, at work and said if the car had a 'fred bloggs 123' chassis, the replacement has to be a 'fred
bloggs 123' chassis, with manufacturers evidence..... and NOT a 'fred bloggs 124' or even a 'A. N. Other'
chassis......same goes for the monocoque....
I know that every DVLA office in the land interprets differently, but a 'senior' at Head Office is usually happy to verify.... 
I know this because of the work we do...
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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blakep82
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 05:25 PM |
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ah, that makes sense then
wonder why its always duttons being sold like this?
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andy o
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 05:26 PM |
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i really don't see the problem,its not as though hes hiding anything,lets face it if you buy a kit with a v5 you can do want you want and the
money you save on sva/iva can be spent on goodies
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Fozzie
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| posted on 23/8/09 at 05:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andy o
........lets face it if you buy a kit with a v5 you can do want you want.......
No, you cannot ......every change has to be notified.......if your chassis, for starters, doesn't 'match' ....you are in the
doo-doo.
which leads on to your insurance being null and void....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 25/8/09 at 07:22 AM |
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you may be able to con the dvla, but if you're involved in an accident the insurance good old insurance assessor isn't as stupid they can
smell a ringer a mile away
tony
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