Major Stare
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 posted on 8/2/10 at 10:59 PM |
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Whats needed.. stick to paddles?
2003 R1, in a Westfield with gearstick in tunnel.
What materials would i need to convert to paddle shifting?
Jon "FISH"
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 8/2/10 at 11:01 PM |
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a desire to believe you are an F1 driver
A man isn't complete until he's married, then he's finished
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 8/2/10 at 11:21 PM |
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You'll want a Paddle and a Rocker, some Ali Rods and some Rose-Joints...
Or you can stick to the tunnel and just get a taller gearknob?
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 12:06 AM |
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have to say, i still don't see the appeal of paddles, unless they follow the steering wheel round.
but even then, you really need to be able to go lock to lock without moving your hands
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Andy B
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 09:42 AM |
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The reason we use paddles is several fold. Firstly it reinstates some feel to the change, putting the change under the fingertips, the gearbox is
probably the weakest link in a bec so positive and accurate shifts are essential. It is also a faster shift for those racing and means hands can be
kept on the wheel during shift. In terms of connection to engine we only use cable as what happens at one end of the cable happens at the other with
no loss of feel through rose joints, bellcranks and linkages, they also make for an easy install. In general cables make for a softer change and are
easily upgraded to incorporate flatshifters. You must use a quality cable though, some of the nylon lined stuff is just cr#p - we use a teflon lined
one that seems to work just fine.
regards
Andy
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 09:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
have to say, i still don't see the appeal of paddles, unless they follow the steering wheel round.
but even then, you really need to be able to go lock to lock without moving your hands
Even with a quick rack, going lock to lock without
moving your hands is likely to dislocate at least one shoulder!
Shouldn't be changing gear in the middle of corners where the wheel needs to be turned that much anyway.
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 11:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
have to say, i still don't see the appeal of paddles, unless they follow the steering wheel round.
but even then, you really need to be able to go lock to lock without moving your hands
Even with a quick rack, going lock to lock without
moving your hands is likely to dislocate at least one shoulder!
Shouldn't be changing gear in the middle of corners where the wheel needs to be turned that much anyway.
ah, yeah, i meant to write about not changing gear on a corner, edited something and forgot to put it back in. i've never been driving a car and
thought, i could really do with paddle shift lol.
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 04:48 PM |
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What you've never had, you never miss! See if you can get a go in a car with a paddle shift and I bet you a packet of crisps and a Curly Wurly
that you don't think "boy, I could really do with one of those waggly gear sticks"
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 9/2/10 at 04:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by skinned knuckles
a desire to believe you are an F1 driver
I do believe that I'm an F1 driver, it's just that nobody else believes me!
ETA - Oh, and a second vote, not that it needs it after Andy's post, for cable over push rods. Much better feel and therefore more gearbox
sympathetic
[Edited on 9/2/10 by Richard Quinn]
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sucksqueezebangblow
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| posted on 10/2/10 at 01:46 PM |
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You can get control cables to your own spec from ngrant@tuthill.com Tuthill Controls Website
<http://www.tuthill.com/us/en/about/organization/lob/Controls/index.cfm> : Diplocks Way, Hailsham, East Sussex, BN27 3JF, United Kingdom.
Better to Burnout than to Fade Away JET METAL ~ AndySparrow © 
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Major Stare
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| posted on 10/2/10 at 09:37 PM |
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Cheers all,
So...
Paddle/cable is more sympathetic to the gearbox.
Gives quicker changes.
What is the triangle bracket in Steve's reply?
How would i fit the paddles to my steering column?
Rough cost for a cable/paddle system?
[Edited on 10/2/10 by Major Stare]
Jon "FISH"
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Brommers
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| posted on 10/2/10 at 09:50 PM |
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Every installation will be slightly different depending on the steering column/engine fitted/engine position.
I've got a cable-based system on my Striker but no pictures of it. I've got a rod-based system on my Fury racercar - pictures are on my
site at www.danstuff.info/furyracer.html but edited highlights are:
Paddles themselves and mounting bracket
Bellcrank between the two actuating rods
The whole linkage
The steering column's a standard Sierra column with all the indicator and lighting stalk mounts removed. It's all home-brewed, so you
won't be able to get anything similar off the shelf, but it may provide some inspiration.
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franky
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| posted on 11/2/10 at 08:48 AM |
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There's a guy on here who does paddle kits for about 1/5th the cost of the big boys
Exactly the same bar it doesn't have the control cable, I found a place that can supply the high quality ones for £35ish.
I had a whole new system up and running for about £100.
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bigsteve
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 07:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by franky
There's a guy on here who does paddle kits for about 1/5th the cost of the big boys
Exactly the same bar it doesn't have the control cable, I found a place that can supply the high quality ones for £35ish.
I had a whole new system up and running for about £100.
where did you get your cable from? 35 quid sounds good to me
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franky
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 07:50 PM |
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I'll have a dig around for the reciept, it was a place that makes them. Proves what a mark-up kit car companies are making!
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bigsteve
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 07:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by franky
I'll have a dig around for the reciept, it was a place that makes them. Proves what a mark-up kit car companies are making!
cheers for that
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Major Stare
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| posted on 15/2/10 at 10:32 PM |
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Iam to fit an SPA removable boss to my colum, how would this effect the install of paddles?
Jon "FISH"
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