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PuppiesBalls

posted on 1/3/10 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
Re-SVA'ing?

Good morning gents,

My kit car is down to the bare chassis now & undergoing a FULL rebuild including new gearbox, suspension, full re-wire, new interior, dashboard.
the only thing that is going to stay the same is the chassis, even the chassis is down to bare metal
I was just wondering if it is possible to Re-SVA & get a new registration etc?
Cheers gents

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afj

posted on 1/3/10 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
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nitram38

posted on 1/3/10 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
Well it's IVA now and £450 plus £90 for a retest.
If it is already registered, do you really want to spend all that and go through all the hassle?






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Humbug

posted on 1/3/10 at 09:24 AM Reply With Quote
a) Well, for starters there are no SVAs now, only IVAs

b) why do you want to go through that again? Is it to get a "new" reg? I think that, as you are using an "old" chassis that wouldn't work legally... you would have to inform DVLA that the old car has been scrapped and remove all trace of the old chassis number. Even then, you would have to have some evidence of where the chassis came from, which would mean a certain amount of creativity

[Edited on 01.03.2010 by Humbug]

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ashg

posted on 1/3/10 at 09:28 AM Reply With Quote
you wont get a new registration. its not a new car. do you think you could strip down a mk1 escort then go for a test and get a brand new reg?

at the end of the day all you have done is strip down and restore a tatty car which is no different to stripping down and restoring an old tatty banger.

take it for an mot if you want an eye over what you have done.

no matter how ever much we natter and moan on here the people at vosa and dvla are not stupid, they can see a tall tale just like all of us.


[Edited on 1/3/10 by ashg]





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Bluemoon

posted on 1/3/10 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Don't bother re-IVA'ing not worth the trouble period! You will need to components to get a new reg anyhow..

You need do this carefully come to think of it, as it depends what you have changed there is a point system and should sufficient points be obtained you should do the IVA (VOSA site has details, keeping the chassis might be all you need but check)....

Dan

[Edited on 1/3/10 by Bluemoon]

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mcerd1

posted on 1/3/10 at 10:25 AM Reply With Quote
^^ as above, your only alowed one reconditonaed part (not the chassis I think) - all the rest has to be brand new with receipts to prove it to get a new reg

and depending on how old it is your probably better off with an older reg anyway


[Edited on 1/3/10 by mcerd1]





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mad4x4

posted on 1/3/10 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
^^ as above, your only alowed one reconditonaed part (not the chassis I think) - all the rest has to be brand new with receipts to prove it to get a new reg

and depending on how old it is your probably better off with an older reg anyway


[Edited on 1/3/10 by mcerd1]


^^ I agree as you will also need to comply with Emissions etc and would protentially fall in to the new Raod Tax Rules......

Now worth the hassle... IMHO





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wilkingj

posted on 1/3/10 at 12:26 PM Reply With Quote
If you re-IVA it, you will ONLY get a Q plate.
A second hand chassis is an automatic Q plate reg. Your chassis is not new... is it? (well now its not!) leta lone having to provide all the paperwork again.

You already have a VIN stamped on the chassis. Changing this would arouse suspicions of a Stolen or Ringed vehicle.

I would not put myself through that or the new increased cost!

Really... DON'T go there!
If its Not a Q plate already, then buy yourself an personal plate. That will hide the age of the vehicle. Its cheaper, and a much easier option.

I would get it MoT'd, even if it didnt need one. Or at least inspected (if its less than 3 years old and still in the MOT free stage) by an MoT trained mechanic, just for peace of mind.

IVA it a second time.... Not really!!






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PuppiesBalls

posted on 1/3/10 at 01:21 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for your reply gents, The main reason I want it IVA tested again is to make sure everything is 100% spot on & safe to use, afterall I have taken it back to bare bones kit form, so the way i see it is that it should be tested properly as if you were to build one from new. I dont know if an MOT is thorough enough,

The cars a 2005 on a q plate

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MakeEverything

posted on 1/3/10 at 01:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PuppiesBalls
Thanks for your reply gents, The main reason I want it IVA tested again is to make sure everything is 100% spot on & safe to use, afterall I have taken it back to bare bones kit form, so the way i see it is that it should be tested properly as if you were to build one from new. I dont know if an MOT is thorough enough,

The cars a 2005 on a q plate


The IVA isnt a safety check specifically. It is a compliance check with the regulations, which have been designed to meet safe standards.
Just because the IVA man says its compliant, doesnt make them a safety expert.





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ashg

posted on 1/3/10 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
im sure if you phone vosa technical department and explain the situation they will advise / offer to check it over for a fee.

but as said IVA is intended for imported/radically altered/and new kitcars.

if you have radically changed the car in any way then you will have to go through the full test again. by radical i mean altered the chassis/suspension design etc.

if its something like you have changed your worn out brakes for new ones and replaced a few rotten fuel lines or other general repairs then it shouldn't need to be tested again.

Phone vosa tell them what you have done to the car and ask them what to do is the best bet then you have all angles covered.


[Edited on 1/3/10 by ashg]





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mcerd1

posted on 1/3/10 at 04:59 PM Reply With Quote
the MOT should cover the basics - if you know a good local garage that you'd trust I'm sure you could get them to check it over for you a bit more thoroughly (and do the MOT if its needed)





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James

posted on 1/3/10 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
Did you not build the car initially?


If you adhere to IVA rules when you re-build it (and build it to a standard that will pass the test!) that's the same safety level as if you'd actually sat the test.

Think how many kits were built before there was an SVA!

It's just a case of using common sense.

You're not that far from me and quite a few other builders, I'm sure people would be willing to pop over for a bit every so often and give things the once over if you're still worried.

Cheers,
James





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Andybarbet

posted on 1/3/10 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
If your worried, why not just get some kind of engineers report once you have finished ? the sort of thing you have to get if you rebuild a car that has been written off would probably be better than IVA' ing it i would think.
Maybe this would put your mind at rest once its rebuilt.

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