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rayward

posted on 28/3/10 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
thought on this re IVA

what do the masses think, will mr IVA like this or not ??

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graememk

posted on 28/3/10 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
no, the symbols need to be on the warning lights not next to them

also its russ on your looking at on ebay.

ask him as he has others

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RichardK

posted on 28/3/10 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
Yep its Russ who's selling those, his username on here is Russbost

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matt_claydon

posted on 28/3/10 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
It's fine for the symbols to be adjacent to the telltales:


quote:

Where provided Identification of Controls, Tell-tales and Indicators;

1.
Must be clear so not to cause confusion.
2.
Must be on or as close to the controls, tell-tales and indicators as possible as not to cause confusion.
3.
Must stand out clearly from the background.



[Edited on 28/3/10 by matt_claydon]

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iank

posted on 28/3/10 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
It used to be a requirement at SVA for the brake fail warning lamp to shine through the symbol, but I can't find it as an explicit requirement in the IVA manual.





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Charlie_Zetec

posted on 28/3/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
I've got a DD2 lite on my dash - if you look at the large close-up picture 1/4 of the way down the page you'll see the symbols are located next to the warning lamps.

When I went to see the guys in Southend to order mine, I warned them I would need/want something IVA friendly and they assured me customers had used these and passed happily.

Question is, should I be worried? I know I'm not that near IVA yet, but it's got me thinking in advance (quite a dangerous thing), should I be worried? ......





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turbodisplay

posted on 29/3/10 at 07:39 AM Reply With Quote
For SVA many people failed for not having the brake warning light not illuminate through symbol. I thought this was still the case with IVA.

Also you need sidelight warning, although the dimming of the instruments is acceptible means of indication.

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iank

posted on 29/3/10 at 07:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by turbodisplay
...I thought this was still the case with IVA.
...


So did I, but I couldn't find anything in the IVA manual that says it must.

But IMO it would be a risk not to do it for the brake warning. For the other warning lamps it shouldn't be an issue.





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russbost

posted on 29/3/10 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
TTBOMK it is an IVA requirement to have the lights shine thro' the symbols, but I think it very much depends on your tester on the day. I have to say it seems completely petty to fail for such a minor discrepancy & that may well be the attitude that many testers take. To satisfy IVA an overlay with the symbols on could be used, I believe these are available from people like CBS
The speedo depicted is aimed at the bike/quad market more than kitcars - there is a very similar unit , the 2859W which Acewell have temporarily withdrawn to redesign so the lights shine thro' the symbols, should be getting stock of those around the end of April.





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iank

posted on 29/3/10 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
TTBOMK it is an IVA requirement to have the lights shine thro' the symbols, but I think it very much depends on your tester on the day. I have to say it seems completely petty to fail for such a minor discrepancy & that may well be the attitude that many testers take. To satisfy IVA an overlay with the symbols on could be used, I believe these are available from people like CBS
The speedo depicted is aimed at the bike/quad market more than kitcars - there is a very similar unit , the 2859W which Acewell have temporarily withdrawn to redesign so the lights shine thro' the symbols, should be getting stock of those around the end of April.


As Matt quotes, the manual is clear that a symbol 'close to' the tell-tale is OK.





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The Venom Project

posted on 29/3/10 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Charlie_Zetec
I've got a DD2 lite on my dash - if you look at the large close-up picture 1/4 of the way down the page you'll see the symbols are located next to the warning lamps.

When I went to see the guys in Southend to order mine, I warned them I would need/want something IVA friendly and they assured me customers had used these and passed happily.

Question is, should I be worried? I know I'm not that near IVA yet, but it's got me thinking in advance (quite a dangerous thing), should I be worried? ......


I have the same DD2 unit, I was told by MNR that they had just taken a car about a month ago for IVA and that they had just come up with it needing a sticker, transparent sticking over the light itself, so even though the bloody digi dash has a bloody symbol at the side of the light, this was not acceptable, and if it didn't have the symbol stuck over the bloody light, it would fail, and indeed did fail the IVA.

How stupid and bloody well annoying.....

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