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mad4x4

posted on 8/6/04 at 03:55 PM Reply With Quote
Electric Fan

How does the sva want this wired- Can it run when the ingition etc is off.

Do I need to put a stiker saying that it will?





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Hellfire

posted on 8/6/04 at 04:08 PM Reply With Quote
I don't recall any regulations stating when it should run. We've wired our's as an after-run system, ie straight to permanent live as most modern cars are. We have a 061 Ford Battery for supply tho'. Just a thought!

No sticker either - but we considered wiring a light inline, so that you know when it is running.

Some have included a permanent switch for track days, which might be a good idea.

[Edited on 8-6-04 by Hellfire]






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zetec

posted on 8/6/04 at 06:06 PM Reply With Quote
I don't think it matters. Production cars do both ways. If you run from ignition switch might be worth fitting a relay as they draw a fair current on start up. Presume you are also fitting temp switch or engine may never get up to correct temp. Mine only runs when standing still for 3-4 mins, never while driving.
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David Jenkins

posted on 8/6/04 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
In 'real' cars they usually wire the fan to the permanently live side - thermostat activates a relay, and the relay switches the fan on. This means that if the thermostat reckons the water is too hot, the fan will come on to cool things down. This gets rid of some of the excess heat after the engine's switched off and the water pump's stopped.

just my 2p's worth!

David

[Edited on 8/6/04 by David Jenkins]






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JoelP

posted on 8/6/04 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
thats how mine is wired. i may add a relay, though the donor (polo) didnt have one. plus the obligatory bypass for when you see trouble coming.






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David Jenkins

posted on 9/6/04 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
thats how mine is wired. i may add a relay, though the donor (polo) didnt have one. plus the obligatory bypass for when you see trouble coming.


We had this debate a long while back - if you KNOW that your thermostat has high-current contacts then you don't need a relay, otherwise it's worth putting one in.

David






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mad4x4

posted on 9/6/04 at 08:15 AM Reply With Quote
Does the Ford "XR2" thermostate switch have high current contacts?





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JoelP

posted on 9/6/04 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
We had this debate a long while back - if you KNOW that your thermostat has high-current contacts then you don't need a relay, otherwise it's worth putting one in.

David


i fully agree david, if i was doing it again i would include a relay for the sake of it, but i cant be bothered changing it!






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stephen_gusterson

posted on 9/6/04 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
my fan runs all the time. It was too much hassle getting a stat into the cooling cct in such a way that i didnt think it would dump water at some point in its life. also messed up my nice simple plumbing scheme.

Early fiestas in 950cc format had always on fans - you didnt get a stat and loom for it until you went to a 1.1L model. But then I had a new 1983 metro that didnt come with a passenger mirror and sun visor on the low models. The stupid things they used to do in early 80s cars to same money. fiestas had plastic seats and floor coverings then.....

atb

steve

[Edited on 9/6/04 by stephen_gusterson]






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blueshift

posted on 9/6/04 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
The engine should still get up to temperature thanks to the wax thermostat that shuts off water to the radiator when the engine is below running temp.

running the fan all the time shouldn't cause problems apart from wasting a bit of power (hence petrol).

correct me if I'm wrong..

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 9/6/04 at 03:27 PM Reply With Quote
Yep - otherwise I wouldnt have done it.

The fan draws about 10a at 12v, so thats less than 150w, or about 1/6 th horsepower..... I think I wont miss it!

atb

steve

quote:
Originally posted by blueshift
The engine should still get up to temperature thanks to the wax thermostat that shuts off water to the radiator when the engine is below running temp.

running the fan all the time shouldn't cause problems apart from wasting a bit of power (hence petrol).

correct me if I'm wrong..







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