chrisbeale
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 10:22 AM |
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sticky number plates
I'm planning on putting a sticky number plate over the front of my nose cone instead of the plastic one hanging down below because I keep
catching it on kerbs. First of all is this legal, I suspect it is and secondly can I put an old style one of black background and white letters.
It's a 1991 car but I'm sure I've seen other q plates like this.
Thanks.
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 10:29 AM |
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no and no.
not legal at all (from mem, willing to be proved wrong though as i would like a sticky one)
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loggyboy
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 10:48 AM |
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As above, they are not legal. There is no stick on reflective background that complies with the required British Standard. However they are so common
on 'classics' most coppers dont care (or more likely dont know). You.l just need a friendly MoTer or a temp standard plate to put on when
required.
Car must be Pre 73 to use B&W plates.
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johny p
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 10:58 AM |
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the stick on type number plates have to be mounted as close to vertical as possible. fixing on top of nose cone can be classed as none vertical..
could fail an mot depending what mood hes in.. i wouldnt fail it.. as for the old style plates.. its got to be registered before 1st jan 1973 to fit
these....
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 11:16 AM |
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stick on plates are technically illegal, as they don't include the relevant "BS" sticker, but I don't think you would get
stopped by the police as it is a very technical infringement.
http://www.craigsplates.com/ can provide them (they make them outside to the UK for reasons of legality). That site also explains the law on the
matter.
Going for black/silver is probably asking for trouble.
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SPYDER
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 11:19 AM |
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Hi there. I've had a stick on plate on top of my car's nosecone for seven years with no problems at all. It is full size with correct font
but obviously no BS. AU mark. I have a legal plate in the garage in case of MOT problems but I've never had to use it.
VOSA set up their cameras near where I live on a regular basis and I've never been stopped or received anything through the post.
Yes, I know I'm taking a risk as my plate is probably illegal. ( although the car was fitted with a stick on plate from 1987, before the modern
regs came into force )
Your car should use the modern white and yellow plates but who am I to preach!
Geoff
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BenB
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 11:20 AM |
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Don't go for black/silver- it's asking for trouble and I know of a few classics who have been failed MOT due to it. I've done a few
MOTs now and been checked over by a few BIB now and never a sniffle about the stuck-on plate on my nosecone but it looks like a "proper"
one.
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T66
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 11:29 AM |
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Construction&Use regs ........
Pre 1973 for the black plates. As for the sticky plates, mot test will require a proper plate, your sticky one will be fine till you ping one of the
number plate reading cameras. Then they will pop a ticket in the post. But that's only a maybe, my Russian jeep has one and hasn't been an
issue in several years.
A traffic cop definitely know when the plate types changed.
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ColinM
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 11:42 AM |
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Much the same as others have said, 99% of the time you'll get away with a stick on yellow and balck one, but IMHO you're really asking for
a nick if you go with the black and white plate
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A1
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 12:15 PM |
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itd have to be white back, but stick on should be fine... I was told by our chums in blue to fit one...
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 12:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by A1
itd have to be white back, but stick on should be fine... I was told by our chums in blue to fit one...
Though probably not in writing....?
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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r1_pete
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 12:37 PM |
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I've never been pulled, or failed an MOT, My MG had a stick on front plate on the top of the bonnet, so does my E Type.
Technically it is illegal to even sell them in the UK, that is why Craigs Plates now trade from Ireland.
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kipper
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 01:10 PM |
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sticky plates
Stick on plates can be bought from loads of places on the Ebay from caravan or trailer dealers.black on white or yellow.
Denis.
Where did that go?
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ReMan
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 01:38 PM |
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Like mine?
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So far so good
www.plusnine.co.uk
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Krismc
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 03:14 PM |
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Ive got a Relective silver, bs marked front stick on plate....(on my 11 plate seven i may add)
Tardy Dar........
Just ask for a plate too be made up without plastic face, then stick it on.
[Edited on 23/3/11 by Krismc]
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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02GF74
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 03:27 PM |
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as ^^^^ say, stick-on plates are not legal and never have been. example of E-type jag is spouted but even then it was not legal, the law officers in
the lates 60s and 70s were less strict and minor car related infringements were not seen as a source of revenue.
also just because ^^ say "I have one and have driven X years and passed Y MOTs without problems" is neither here nor there, it is l.ike
syaing "I have driven at 36 mph in a 30 mph zone and not got a ticket".
sumary: illegal.
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Krismc
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 03:34 PM |
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Well i think plates are technically legal I have a reciept for 2 bs numbers plates, and it states one with and without plastic.
My plates in my eyes are legal, they reflect and letters are of legal size.
Although they May not be placed legally and at the right angle but hey they work for me, no points on licence anyways just a £30 fine, if i put below
nose then its a hazard too other road users as it will snap and hit them, and doesnt comply as no bodywork or fixtures should hang below a certain
height (80mm) i think vosa man told me.
and if i put it in the nose, my engine will go bang bang. It already runs at 115 Degrees.
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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dhutch
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| posted on 6/4/11 at 09:36 PM |
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Ive seen some printed stick on plates, rather then stick on with stick on numbers. Anyone know if these are any good or where they can be bought?
Daniel
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RazMan
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| posted on 6/4/11 at 10:38 PM |
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It all comes down to common sense IMO. If it is obvious that a 'legal' plate cannot be fitted without looking ridiculous then as long as
you are seen to be trying to get close to the legal spec then you will be ok. If you try and get away with a black & white plate or one with daft
fonts then you are just saying 'nick me' in 4" high letters.
For example, my car has a 3/4 sized stick-on plate on the front. It is the correct colour and font, just a bit smaller - 5 years of hassle free
motoring 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:06 AM |
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quote:
My plates in my eyes are legal, they reflect and letters are of legal size.
And murder is legal, in certain cirmcumstances in my eyes but at the end of the day, in reality, it just isn't. And not even if I get a receipt
from my hitman 
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Humbug
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 10:30 AM |
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Can you legally, i.e. from a registered plate supplier and not from one of the internet sellers, get plates that are standard in every way except
without the perspex bit? I thought that that the reflective backing has the glue on it, or is it the perspex bit?
Do plates without the perspex conform to the British Standard?
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Doctor Derek Doctors
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 12:35 PM |
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As long as you don't get pulled over for being an utter bellend and then talk to the Police like they are utter bellends they aren't going
to say anything.
I had a pressed tin No. Plate on the front of my Audi S4 (because twice the plastic one got shattered by flicked up stones), I drove that for 2 years
and got pulled over 3 times and the Police never said anything.
You have to remember that 99% of the time the Traf Pol are only going to see your rear plate anyway.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 01:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
Well i think plates are technically legal I have a reciept for 2 bs numbers plates, and it states one with and without plastic.
My plates in my eyes are legal, they reflect and letters are of legal size.
LOL
In my eyes im a male model - sadly the fact im an average looking slightly over weight bloke is what everyone sees!
Simple fact is they are NOT legal, and its down to the owner if they want to run the risk of coming accross that random copper that does know they
law and for what ever reasons decides to take it further. Yes its generally only a £30 fixed penalty but do it persitantly and they could take it
further with a fine of up to £1000.
Personally I would happily run that risk, and in fact my daily has a personal plate that is missing the space between the numbers and the letters, ive
been pulled once (not spefically for the plate) and they have noted it, told me to change it and said if they see me again a they would take it
further. Which with personal plate is riskier as they can take the plate off you in exceptional circumstances.
The BS standard is BS AU 145d, however the law envoking the need to display that AND the postcode/identifier of the manufactuerer of the plate only
applies to plates made afer sept 01.
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Krismc
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 05:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
Can you legally, i.e. from a registered plate supplier and not from one of the internet sellers, get plates that are standard in every way except
without the perspex bit? I thought that that the reflective backing has the glue on it, or is it the perspex bit?
Do plates without the perspex conform to the British Standard?
The perspex is only there to protect the reflective backing, not to conform to BS - ive got my plate with everything on but perspex
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 7/4/11 at 06:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Krismc
The perspex is only there to protect the reflective backing, not to conform to BS - ive got my plate with everything on but perspex
The BS relates to the whole construction of the plate, not just the reflective background. It gives requirements for strength, size, thickness and of
course the reflectivness etc etc.
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