mogie
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 posted on 15/2/03 at 02:45 PM |
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vin plate
do i need the vin plate and log book of my single doner for the sva and do i need the clocks an switches
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Peteff
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| posted on 16/2/03 at 02:50 PM |
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vin plates
Your car should have a VIN number of its own allocated by your local vehicle licensing authority. You have to fill in the appropriate forms and have
your car inspected to prove it actually exists, even if it's still only in bits, then the number willbe sent to you. The switches and dials are
optional as long as they comply to present regulations and in the case of speedo are within certain percentages at 10mph intervals and do not read
lower than actual speed. Your best option is to get hold of a copy of a manual or find a website with the regs on it, several people on here have
them. Try Chrisg for example.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Jim
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| posted on 16/2/03 at 11:58 PM |
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On my bought MK chasis I just made up a VIN number. Is this an exception to the rule? Both mine and my dad's VIN number were made up by ourselves.
We chose something that looked goos as a number.
Jim
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/2/03 at 08:49 AM |
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I believe that this is perfectly OK, as long as the vehicle licencing authority says the number is good - it should have 10 - 15 characters,
preferably a mix of numbers and characters, and must be unique (000000001 won't do it!).
cheers,
David
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bob
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 05:49 PM |
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VIN
I called my local VRO today to sort out the chassis number,the girl i spoke to was very helpfull and is sending appropriate forms.
But she did say that no way would i be allowed to make up my own number,and as far as she was concerned it was probably ilegal.
So that totally confused me as i know the Robinhood boys in Nottingham use part of their chassis invoice number to make up the VIN.
She laughed at this and said no way.
So as far as i'm concerned chassis numbers mean absolutely nothing and i might as well just use the sierra one .
Or maybe not,i'll write a letter to the VRO and ask for a number and see what happens.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 06:24 PM |
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the various offices seem to make their own rules up as they go along,maybee they should get together and sort their lives out
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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CairB
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 06:53 PM |
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When I applied for a VIN no. at Manchester I was sent a set of forms to fill out, including an application for registration. I then had an inspector
call to inspect the vehicle, visual check on engine no. She was most helpful, giving me a VIN no. and details of what I needed to do to get
registered once the SVA was passed. I think it helps to speak to the local VRO well ahead of applying for SVA.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 09:27 PM |
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"it should have 10 - 15 characters"
All VIN numbers since 1980 must have 17 digits
If helps any?
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merlin
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 10:11 PM |
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Ring the SVA office and ask them, after all they are the ones responsible for passing the vehicle and ensuring that it's legal. They told me to make
my own number up and all paperwork issued by them states my chassis number on it. Surely this is now legally my chassis number?! If I have this
completely wrong please let me know, my test is on Monday!!!
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Dave Ashurst
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| posted on 12/3/03 at 10:55 PM |
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Merlin,
That's exactly what the SVA told me too. I also confirmed it on the phone with the VRO.
My made up 17 digit VIN number worked fine (registered 12 months ago).
Dave
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bob
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 07:12 PM |
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Well i'm not going to try and phone the Stanmore VRO again,as i wasted nearly half a day off on weds.
I'm going to go with the flow and try my luck with the 17 digit route,can anyone give me some clues as to how the letters and numbers are formed
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ie: how many letters how many numbers.
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david walker
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 08:21 PM |
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It's up to the local VRO what VIN number you have. In Notts you make up your own. In some areas they insist on giving you one. It's not the law,
it's local petty beurocracy. Mine is 15 digits long, not 17. - So another myth dispelled.
The Notts VRO people are really helpfull, it's a pity that more of these "jobsworth" types around the country aren't.
Look in my photos and see a copy of my SVA certificate if you don't believe me.
Arguments thrive where facts are scarce.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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bob
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 09:24 PM |
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Thanks david
I really want it all to be above board,but for sure the VRO i called were about as helpfull as a fish with tits .
Maybe i should have moved house to say Nottingham and then SVA'd in Derby where it seems they have allowances
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paulf
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 09:58 PM |
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Vin no .
I am also near to needing a vin number and am going to try my chances and make my own up. Surely all the major motor manufacturers just make up the
number, they cant all apply to vro offices or swansea to have a million vin nos issued.Once the car is SVA tested i dont see how the vro can
object.
Paul.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 10:55 PM |
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I had this VIN discussion on the robin hood 2b site a while back.
They DO make up the vin number, based in it being
ROBINHOODXXXXXXX
WITH THE X MAKING UP 17 DIGITS
and being their invoice number.
I suspect making up your vin is illegal, but it probably dont get noticed.
A VERY IMPORTANT thing is it MUST be original.
So, dont use your donors. Swansea will wonder why you are trying to reg a locost as a 1987 red 1.6l sierra....cos those details will come up.
I have a theory on how you can safely make up a non conflicting one.....
http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/vin.html
http://www.jag-lovers.org/xjlovers/xjfaq/vin.htm
read this.
Its for ferrari and jag but the basic make up holds good - the numbers standing
just change the 9th digit. use all the rest.
as long as the 9th digit is different, you are home and dry. you could if you want change other digits to make it auto instead of manual, but either
way, the number will be unique.
atb
steve
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 13/3/03 at 10:57 PM |
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I am also near to needing a vin number and am going to try my chances and make my own up. Surely all the major motor manufacturers just make up the
number, they cant all apply to vro offices or swansea to have a million vin nos issued.Once the car is SVA tested i dont see how the vro can object.
Paul.
I dont see why they dont have a block of numbers issued.........car dealers dont make up number plates.......i recon the reality is that once swansea
knows the basic format, then the mfr just changes the appropriate digits....
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david walker
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| posted on 15/3/03 at 05:24 PM |
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I MOT'd my car before SVA. Quite legal, got it insured, drove to test sation, passed MOT. MOT certificate showed VIN number which I had made up.
VIN plate is small piece of polished stainless, made and stamped by me at home and held to chassis with two pop rivets. Quite legal, checked by SVA
man - no need to weld it to chassis, or hard stamp into chassis. - I know this is not point of discussion, but is one that often comes up.
When my car passed SVA, I immediately went to Nottingham VRO as it is on way home from SVA station. I had already filled out paperwork - stood in
queue but then found out the two "inspectors" were both out. Left my phone number.
Later in the day an inspector phoned, and arranged to visit me at home the next day. There's no charge for this. It was summer and he arrived at said
time in a tee shirt and shorts! He turned out to be main man and was the person responsible for assisting Robin Hood devise their VIN number system.
He explained how their VIN number helps RH track the history of the car. He categorically told me that the VIN number, as long as is unique is up to
builder. We had the discussion about other authorities (ie Lincs, where I have friends with Locosts) and he said that was up the them, he couldn't
understand why they wanted to burden themselves with the task of issuing numbers and there was definitly no legal requirement for this to be the
case.
The "inspection" took about 15 mins, although he was with with me longer having a chat and could not have been more helpful. He phoned next morning,
having confirmed that my chassis number was unique, and issued me with registration number verbally, to allow me to obtain plates. Paperwork followed
day after after which I got tax disc.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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merlin
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| posted on 16/3/03 at 11:47 PM |
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chassis number
I used simply -
SHLOCOST7200301
SH being my initials
2003 being the year
01 being the month
and the middle bit for the hard of hearing or Bob is the make of car!
Have had this confimed by the Vehicle Inspectorate and took me all of 10 seconds to think it up!!!
SVA tommorow! Ooooooooooooooh Shhiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt!!!
shit happens! (but why always to me!!)
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MikeyG
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 posted on 22/3/03 at 08:12 PM |
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You should try getting a VIN number in Southampton -- The inspection was fine (although i had to rent a trailer as i wasn't allowed to drive to
the particular test station) but once the number was issued i had to get it stamped in by a 'MOT station or franchised dealership'. This
would have been fine but i couldn't find a station with a set of stamps -- and although the local SVA & DVLA office people knew of a place
they wouldn't tell me since "that would constitute unfair trade". All in all it's waisted 5 weeks of build time, jezza's been
ready all that time & i've just been polishing her! I had a trailer her to the Midlands in the end, just to visit a friend who happens to own
an MOT station where i could take my own stamps to get it done......Does anyone else feel like they are making every effort to keep our cars off of
the road?
 
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dodgyroger
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| posted on 24/4/03 at 05:43 PM |
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I'm not sure if this thread has done itself to death yet but if anyone is still interrested, I found this desciption of how to interpret the new
17 char VIN codes. See
http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/vin.htm
Roger
http://www.dodgyroger.com/locost
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James
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| posted on 30/4/03 at 10:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
the various offices seem to make their own rules up as they go along,maybee they should get together and sort their lives out
I quite like the fact that they're all different. If they got together it'd involve a load of bureacracy and they'd probably close
any loopholes we can currently use.
The way things are currently means you can effectively phone round the different places until you get the answer you want!
Cheers,
James
...still determined to blag a 'new' plate if at all possible...
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