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kenton

posted on 1/11/06 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
Two v5"s

Im about to build a viento and have 2 donars, sd1 vitesse for the engine and sierra xr4x4 for diff, steering columb etc.
The question is should i change the sierra v5 to show an engine change to the v8? Will this help get an age related plate, or would i get one anyway? Both are on sorn.
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ReMan

posted on 1/11/06 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
You will get the age related from whats on your built car. Its unlikely? (but possible) that the DVLA inspector would accept that the engine was originally from the Sierra, even if it says so on the log book. |It might help, but if your using back axel brakes, steering hubs from sierra you, should get one anyway
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Humbug

posted on 2/11/06 at 07:56 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ReMan
You will get the age related from whats on your built car. Its unlikely? (but possible) that the DVLA inspector would accept that the engine was originally from the Sierra, even if it says so on the log book. |It might help, but if your using back axel brakes, steering hubs from sierra you, should get one anyway


I think I remember seeing a post on here that someone had the V5 on their donor changed to show they had installed a bike engine. I guess it depends how clued up the DVLA guy is as to whether you get away with it.

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oliwb

posted on 2/11/06 at 08:00 AM Reply With Quote
DVLA man had NO idea when he checked mine other.....had a V5 for a 1970 Cortina....but actually was using pinto engine, sierra column, brakes, axle, hubs, gearbox etc etc....All he cared about was that the axle said Ford on it! I'd change the engine in the sierra to a v8 and use its V5.....that way you should be totally assured of getting an age related plate. But as others have said you SHOULD get it anyway.....no promises tho Oli.





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wilkingj

posted on 2/11/06 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
Use the Sierra V5, as you will have sierra axles and steering column, and brakes. ie more points / parts

From the SD1 its only the engine and box, if you dont use the sierra box.

In hindsight, I would pay for a rv8 to type9 box convertor plate. Good LT77 boxes are hard comeby and expensive to repair.
Whereas a type 9 or MT75 are much more common and much cheaper.

Or dont use any V5 and go for a Q plate... visual emissions at Mot time (except for the SVA). thats a big advantage.






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James

posted on 2/11/06 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
I would register the v8 engine as being in the Sierra and get your Sierra v5 changed accordingly.

Then scrap the Rover and register it as scrapped on the v5.

Cheers,
James





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PeterW

posted on 2/11/06 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Good LT77 boxes are hard comeby and expensive to repair.
Whereas a type 9 or MT75 are much more common and much cheaper.



Try Ashcroft Transmissions - LT77 is bullet proof as its used in Landrovers and can take fairly hefty torque - conversion plates can start to get expensive, and the type 9 isn't all that strong in comparison

Cheers

Peter

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kenton

posted on 2/11/06 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for your comments, for the sake of a bit of paperwork and time i will change the sierra v5 to show the v8 as its engine. Ill then scrap them both (space/mess is an issue) but keep the sierra on sorn even though its actually gone. the vin plate will be kept though.
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wilkingj

posted on 2/11/06 at 09:57 PM Reply With Quote
LT77 boxes in Land Rovers are the weakest box they fit. LT85 Santana box is better, LT95 is almost bulletproof.
and the R380 debateable (lots of issues when first released), as its a modded LT77, but is still better than the 77.
Dont look for these other boxes as they are all 4WD boxes except the R380 which was both.

Ashcroft Transmissions are gurus... Total Respect!!

The Landy gearboxes have thicker spigots into the flywheel for better support than the thinner spigot in the SD1 LT77.

The output shaft at the back suffers with wear on the splines, due to poor lubrication. I know... Its £880 for a recon box fitted (Ascroft bult). Although its more work on a Landy as its got a transfer box as well to change, and two props

Recon Exch is £500 ish (fit yourself)

Type 9's are still 10 a Penny... OK not quite as strong, but cheaper to change when they go wrong.

Considering LT77's havent been made for several years, most are almost knackered, unless its a recon.
Beware of cheap recon's as they can be recon with secondhand parts.

Ashcrofts are not cheap... and are definately amongst the very best.

I still stand by my views... I've owned 5 landrovers, and I dont mean Rangeys or Disco's either.






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2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

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Schrodinger

posted on 6/11/06 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kenton
Thanks for your comments, for the sake of a bit of paperwork and time i will change the sierra v5 to show the v8 as its engine. Ill then scrap them both (space/mess is an issue) but keep the sierra on sorn even though its actually gone. the vin plate will be kept though.
Kenton


Kenton
Keep the number plates as well I have had a scrap car cloned and as you are not reporting it as scrapped you could end up in trouble.

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