welshboy
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:09 PM |
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retaining number plate
hi im building a locost iv read the leaflet from dvla that says u can keep ur number plate if you use enough parts from your doner car and you have
to make up 8 points but the way it says u get the points i think it would be imposible to keep the reg it says you get 1 for the engine 2 for gearbox
2 for axle 2 for suspention and 2 for the steering but if you add them up a locost dont use the escort suspention so that leaves me with 7 to start
with how does everyone else do it
[Edited on 19/1/07 by welshboy]
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coozer
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:16 PM |
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You just need two points and you get a reg number with the same index, just not the original number.
Also keep the V5, vin number plate and some pictures of the donor. I cut the chassis number out of the floor as well. Remember to keep it on sorn and
not scrapped or you will lose it!!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:19 PM |
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You need 8 points in total.
A brand new chassis counts as 5 points.
All I did was provide reciepts for the NEW steel (it has to be new) and name myself as the manufacturer.....Bickell Designs.
With the engine, transmission, drivetrain, steering colomn and brakes, I got an age related plate.
[Edited on 19/1/2007 by nitram38]
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whitestu
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:26 PM |
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Hi
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Remember to keep it on sorn and not scrapped or you will lose it!!
My donor was scrapped and I still got an age related plate.
Stu
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James
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:31 PM |
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The leaflet you want is INF26.
Is it this one you're reading.
IIRC it's the 'Kit Conversion' section that ours falls under. No points, just a new chassis with bits of old car bolted to it.
Having said all this Nitram and I disagree about how it's done... and we registered at the same SVA and DVLA! 
So it kinda depends on the DVLA peeps you get!
HTH,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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coozer
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 04:39 PM |
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Yeah I meant two components and the kit. But you still need a V5 to get the age related plate.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 05:01 PM |
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I didn't need a V5. All I needed was proof of the engine age.
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welshboy
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 05:48 PM |
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yes its a nif26 i rang dvla and they told me for the chassis to count as 5 points it had to be a new ford chassis the same type as it is now . i have
the doner car and the v5 its a 1969 ford escort mk1 super if i get to keep the reg would it still be tax free ?
[Edited on 19/1/07 by welshboy]
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Humbug
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 05:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welshboy
yes its a nif26 i rang dvla and they told me for the chassis to count as 5 points it had to be a new ford chassis the same type as it is now . i have
the doner car and the v5 its a 1969 ford escort mk1 super if i get to keep the reg would it still be tax free ?
[Edited on 19/1/07 by welshboy]
No, because free tax disc is only for cars first registered before 1973 (or whatever the date was), not registrations first issued before the
date. YOur car would be first registered in 2007, therefore not qualify
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James
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 07:00 PM |
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Thank god I've got this saved so didn't have to type it again!
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To quote from INF 26:
"
Radically Altered Vehicles
This covers vehicles which are substantially altered from their original specification, but which are not kit conversions
In these cases the vehicle components used from the original vehicle will be given a numerical value and, in order to retain the original registration
mark the vehcile must score eight or more points
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
Kit Built Vehicles
where all the parts of a vehicle are supplied new by the manufacturer. Subject to the provision of satisfactory receipts and a Certificate of Newness
these vehicles will be registered under a current registration mark
Kit Conversions
This is where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle or old parts are added to a kit comprising a manufactured body/chassis/monococque
bodyshell. The general appearance of the vehicle will change and result ina revised description on the Registration Certificate.
A vehicle will retain its donor registration mark if either the original unmodified chassis or unaltered monocoque bodyshell and two other
major components from the donor vehicle are used.
If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis/bodyhell from an existing vehicle) together
with two major components from a donor vehicle, an age-related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of the donor vehicle. Am
ESVA/SVA/MSVA certifificate will be required to register the vehicle.
Where there are insufficient parts from a donor vehicle or in cases where the original vehicle mark is unknown, an ESVA/SVA/MSVA certificate will e
required to register the vehicle and a "Q" prefix registration number will be allocated.
"
Building a Locost quite clearly comes under the definition of a "Kit Conversion". Therefore not under "Radically Altered
Vehicles", "Kit Built Vehicles" or "Reconstructed Classics".
Therefore you just need a receipt for a bought chassis (or new steel receipts if *you* are the manufacturer) and two parts from the donor to get
age-related.
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I think this is the key phrase:
"If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis/bodyhell from an existing vehicle)
together with *two* major components from a donor vehicle, an age-related mark will be assigned."
Your's will be a 'Kit Conversion', not a 'radically altered vehicle'.... stangely enough!
HTH,
James
[Edited on 19/1/07 by James]
[Edited on 19/1/07 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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nitram38
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 07:09 PM |
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This is what I said!!!!!!!!!
Quote: If a new monocoque bodyshell or chassis from a specialist kit manufacturer is used (or an altered chassis/bodyhell from an existing vehicle)
together with two major components from a donor vehicle, an age-related mark will be assigned. The mark will be based on the age of the donor vehicle.
Am ESVA/SVA/MSVA certifificate will be required to register the vehicle.
I named myself as the kit manufacturer.........Bickell Designs.
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James
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| posted on 19/1/07 at 07:16 PM |
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I named myself as the manufacturer too...
The model is my surname too!
What I'm trying to say is that the points system is under the heading of 'Radically Altered Vehicles'. Not Kit Conversions.
And this is clearly a Kit Conversion! 
And all you need for a Kit Conversion is a new chassis and two major components. don't worry about points.
All the best,
James
[Edited on 19/1/07 by James]
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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damien
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| posted on 20/1/07 at 07:52 AM |
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so if i wanted to register with a new plate would ALL parts need to be new then?
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Marcus
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| posted on 20/1/07 at 10:45 AM |
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You are allowed one reconditioned unit (usually engine) but it has to be reconditioned to manufacturers spec, with receipts. every other nut and bolt
has to be new.
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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Omni
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| posted on 21/6/07 at 06:14 PM |
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Hey All,
Sorry to be dense here but, how exactly did you name yourself as the manufacturer?
Is it a specific form? Does anyone have the name of it or an example?
Cheers.
Omni
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nitram38
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| posted on 21/6/07 at 06:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Omni
Hey All,
Sorry to be dense here but, how exactly did you name yourself as the manufacturer?
Is it a specific form? Does anyone have the name of it or an example?
Cheers.
Omni
Just put it on the form that the dvla give you before they visit you or you them.
I just told the dvla examiner too when he asked. No problem if you made your own car. All they might ask for is the new material reciept from your
steel supplier.
You can get one of those from anywhere.
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Omni
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| posted on 21/6/07 at 07:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
Just put it on the form that the dvla give you before they visit you or you them.
I just told the dvla examiner too when he asked. No problem if you made your own car. All they might ask for is the new material reciept from your
steel supplier.
You can get one of those from anywhere.
Sweet!!! Cheers :-) So will the Diff and the Steering colum (plus the new chassis) be enough to get the age related plate?
Ummm hold on! I want to use a 4x4 Seirra LSD diff, will the notice the difference?
Thanks,
O
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nitram38
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| posted on 21/6/07 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Ummm hold on! I want to use a 4x4 Seirra LSD diff, will the notice the difference?
Thanks,
O
They probably won't have a clue and aren't all that bothered.
You know more than they do.
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iank
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| posted on 21/6/07 at 09:55 PM |
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For some stupid reason the dvla don't have INF26 online (I'm sure they used to).
The information is here -> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/DG_4022486
Northern Ireland have a pdf on their website which looks like it's the same:
http://www.dvlni.gov.uk/vehicles/vehicleforms.htm
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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