Mr Whippy
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 posted on 12/3/07 at 10:21 AM |
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ahh me brain!!
Ok don’t worry this has nothing to do with a 7, thankfully…
Just a legal question about registration stuff. If someone were to say take a production car body and plonk it on top of a new chassis which has a
different engine and running gear from the original car but and I stress the BUT bit, the cars body is untouched otherwise, would it be able to keep
its original registration. An example maybe a LandRover with a body swap where the body would retain the registration of the chassis, though this is
really the other way round as it is the chassis which is new. Tricky I know. It all seems to depend on what constitutes a chassis and what would be
considered a suspension subframe.
any ideas???
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02GF74
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 10:33 AM |
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^^^^ in other words you replace the old chassis by a new one?
I beleive you retain the original registration as long as the chassis is to the same spec.
i.e. if you have a leaf sprung landie and slap it ontop of a coil sprung one, that is a big no-no (and may need SVA?). Your LR would loose tax exempt
status if the orginal vehicle was pre '73 and you use a coil chassis.
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owelly
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 10:41 AM |
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Is it not back to the points thing??
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 10:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
^^^^ in other words you replace the old chassis by a new one?
I beleive you retain the original registration as long as the chassis is to the same spec.
i.e. if you have a leaf sprung landie and slap it ontop of a coil sprung one, that is a big no-no (and may need SVA?). Your LR would loose tax exempt
status if the orginal vehicle was pre '73 and you use a coil chassis.
oops forget the landy's, bad example...think 'car' on new chassis/subframes jacked up monster truck/dune buggy type
'thing', yikes!
wish I had a picture, but the you'd laugh at me, again
[Edited on 12/3/07 by Mr Whippy]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:02 AM |
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If you build a new chassis or modify an old one and stick an old body on it, it will need an SVA. The volkwagen beach buggies etc that use modded
chassis, all require an SVA.
The only times you can use a new chassis and not need an SVA is in something like a restoration on an MGB where a complete new shell is available from
Heratige motors, and is to the same spec as the original.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:05 AM |
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hmm I suspect your right, ta
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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RazMan
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:31 AM |
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When you think about it the chassis is the structural part and the body is purely cosmetic (loosely speaking) so the new chassis will have to go
through SVA and DVLA.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:38 AM |
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Bit of a gray area this one, as the chassis is an additional one as the 'car' body shell is a chassis in it's own right. Not a
problem though as the SVA is really not that bad especially when the cars shell and interior are already SVA compliant. Just needs bloody big plastic
cycle wings!
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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iank
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 11:58 AM |
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Interesting question (the original one). If one end's suspension is all bolted into a frame which is in turn bolted onto a chassis I'd
expect it to be counted as a subframe and be SVA free. Just like a mini and countless modern FWD cars, the chassis is counted as the monocoque.
If suspension from both ends is attached to a single frame or the frame is then welded in I'd say it was a chassis.
The car body which is the 'chassis' in a monocoque couldn't be modified 'significantly' to accept the frames. Chopping
out the floor wouldn't be acceptable for example.
There seems to be a slightly off-grey area with chassis modifications since you are allowed to make minor alterations (otherwise fitting an
aftermarket sunroof, or indeed welding in new non OEM sills, would require SVA!)
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 12:16 PM |
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well your kind of following my logic, the car in question does as standard have two seperate suspension subframes but as these are no use for the
intended suspension they would be replaced by new subframe/s along the lines of a space frame chassis with double wishbones and uprights.
The engine and gearbox is also to be replaced as its frd as standard and the end product is to be 4wd.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 02:48 PM |
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[Quote] Just needs bloody big plastic cycle wings! [Quote]
Thinking of doing the Paris/Dakar are we?
 
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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