Dave J
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 12:48 PM |
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Q plate and emmissions
Hi Guys,
Can someone clear up the emmissions requirement on Q plate cars?
I thought it was smoke only check, but one or two comments recently have got me worried, namely that if the age of your engine is stated on your V5 as
say 1990, then the emmissions test for the MOT will be that of a 1990 age vehicle irrespective of whether it's Q plate or not.
I'm coming up to MOT on a Q. The engine age is listed on my V5 but not any emmission limits. I was hoping for just a smoke test, but now
I'm starting to wonder!!
Does anybody have the definitive word on this?
Cheers guys
Dave
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 12:51 PM |
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I'm not sure, but as a precaution I've made sure that my engine is still within the limits used during the SVA.
David
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wilkingj
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:04 PM |
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As far as I understand it. The Engine age is required for SVA, so they can test the emissions are at the right levels for that age of engines at the
SVA.
I believe that for an MoT it is a Visual test on a Q plate.
Also you say there is no emission details on your V5, So I would expect you to get a visual test, as there are no emissions data to go on on the
V5.
However, I have a Q plate, and the Emission figures are stamped on the V5.
I expect to be tested to those limts and no higher when My MoT comes up.
Personally speaking, I would take your V5 with your for the MoT, but keep it in your pocket unless it is specifically asked for. ie NO Volunteering on
your part .
Or you could just pop in to your local Mot station and ASK.
[Edited on 26/3/2007 by wilkingj]
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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BenB
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:12 PM |
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See page 8
link: http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2025%20-%20Oct%202004.pdf
from the horses mouth!!!
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wilkingj
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
See page 8
from the horses mouth!!!
The Horse aint talking!.. Your link is incorrectly formatted!.
Working Linky
This Horse (link) is talking the talk
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Duncan_P
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
See page 8
Working link is:
linky
EDIT : lol too many helpful people on the forum
[Edited on 26/3/07 by Duncan_P]
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iank
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:29 PM |
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Hmm, hope it wasn't me that added to any confusion. It's visible smoke only - how do they know you haven't changed the engine to an
earlier one?
I raised the suspicion a while back that a possible future change in regulations was only reason I could see for the SVA emissions limits to be put as
a note on the V5c of Q reg cars.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Duncan_P
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:35 PM |
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After reading the linked PDF i feel even more confused that before.....
So does this mean if you have a Q - plate you only get emmission/cat tested at SVA....as according to the doc a Q plated car is taken to be produced
pre Aug 95?
EDIT: Just taken time to read through it slowly again, and this does seem to be what it is saying. Think i'll be going for a 'Q'
plate then  . Although from what people have been saying recently they do seem to be trying to persuade people into an ages related/new plate
recently (this would explain why).
[Edited on 26/3/07 by Duncan_P]
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BenB
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:50 PM |
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Whoops re linky!!!!
Yup. The SVA and MOT requirements for testing are very different. SVA= engine date, MOT= based upon "date of car first use" which for a Q
plate is so far back (they assume) that its visable smoke only.... Age of engine is irrelevant....
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iank
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 01:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Duncan_P
After reading the linked PDF i feel even more confused that before.....
So does this mean if you have a Q - plate you only get emmission/cat tested at SVA....as according to the doc a Q plated car is taken to be produced
pre Aug 95?
EDIT: Just taken time to read through it slowly again, and this does seem to be what it is saying. Think i'll be going for a 'Q'
plate then . Although from what people have been saying recently they do seem to be trying to persuade people into an ages related/new plate
recently (this would explain why).
[Edited on 26/3/07 by Duncan_P]
At the time of SVA you/vosa don't know what kind of plate you are going to get, that comes after you've passed. So emissions are
calculated based on engine age.
I've also heard they are trying to avoid giving out Q's, but it's easy to force them to give you one if you want one (I do).
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Dave J
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 02:12 PM |
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Thanks guys for the replies and info.
Once again confusion reigns where the DVLA are concerned.
Geoff,
It seems strange that your emmissions are on your V5. When was your Viento given its Q plate?
My Viento was Q reg'd April last year and yet no emmission limit figures appear on my V5 (not that I'm complaining you understand)
I'm a bit miffed at having to have an MOT as it's only just coming up to a year old, but apparently all Q's have to be MOT'd
irrespective of age.
Will someone please tell me why the regulations between Q and age relateds are different when it comes to the 3 year rule?. After all, they can both
be a mix of old and new parts, so in theory both should need to be MOT'd every year purely on safety grounds.
Another of DVLA's little inconsistencies maybe??
Anyway, MOT's Friday, everythings crossed.
Cheers,
Dave
[Edited on 26/3/07 by Dave J]
[Edited on 26/3/07 by Dave J]
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BenB
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 03:56 PM |
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Really? I thought doing the tax online meant you got away without an MOT for the first three years.... (even with a Q)....
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 04:22 PM |
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Why Q's need an MOT
Hi
I'm lead to believe, that its because Q's are not deemed to be a 'New' car (As mentioned the SVA and the MOT are totally
different..)
Therefore the wonderful box of tricks at the DVLA's MOT department reasons that all Q plated vehicles must have an MOT annually, irrespective of
when it was first registered.
This is a minor problem that still makes a Q reg very handy to have re visable smoke test only, Immissions, more flexible lighting rules etc etc
[Edited on 26/3/07 by JimSpencer]
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Dave J
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 04:31 PM |
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Curiously, I've managed to do my tax on line
Confused??......You betcha!!
cheers
Dave
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/3/07 at 05:16 PM |
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I couldn't do my tax on-line, so I went down to the local DVLA office to have a good moan at them.
The man on the desk said that I shouldn't need an MOT, he went off to speak to the boss who confirmed it, and I got my tax in the post the next
day.
Maddeningly, it seems to depend entirely on who you speak to...
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