flange nut
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| posted on 28/3/07 at 11:15 PM |
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DVLA
Having passed the SVA test this morning, I went down to the DVLA office in Northampton in the afternoon for the next step in registering the car.
Having waited about 20 minutes for my ticket number to come up I told the girl behind the counter that my kit car had passed the SVA test and I wanted
to register it. She said "Oh right I'll have to get someone to talk to you." This 'someone' came up and I explained the
situation and he asked for my name, I was then told to go and sit at the empty end position of the counters. After another fairly long wait I found
out this 'someone' was Adam a vehicle examiner. He asked a few questions about the doner. I told him it was scrapped but I did have a
copy of the V5. He took this and disappeared again. He came back with a woman who appeared to be his superior. Adam confirmed that the doner had
been scrapped but the copy of the V5 was acceptable. He then asked for the receipt for the kit. I explained that I didn't build it from a kit
but from steel tube and a welder. I showed him the receipt for the steel and he was OK with that. He looked at my buildup report and noticed that the
suspension was new. I gave him the receipt from GTS for the shock absorbers. That was OK. The superior woman then asked how I built the car and
this it were it went a bit odd. I told here that I had built it from plans in the book 'Build your own etc'. She then asked for photo
copies of the plans so she could send them off to Swansea! She also wanted a signed declaration that I had built the car myself. I remembered that
VOSA had sent me a letter asking the same question. I had copied it so I showed her and she seemed happy with that. Adam went of and photocopied the
receipts and letters. Superior person then noticed that I had some photos of the early stages of the build and she took some of those and photocopied
them. In the end they seemed quite happy with the information I had given them. They did take my MAC as well. I was told I could make an
appointment for a vehicle examination and I should bring 'the book' so they could copy the plans. "OK" I said
"when's the next spare slot". "Tuesday 3rd April 3.30" was the reply. I'm going to drive the car there, they
didn't say I couldn't and I do have an appointment.
Has anybody else, apart from Davidm, been asked to show the plans their car had been built from?
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worX
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| posted on 28/3/07 at 11:28 PM |
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slightly OT...
but according to the rather well informed man at Chester DVLA this afternoon he quoted me that as of 4 months ago the law had changed and that youare
no longer allowed to drive you're (now safe after being allowed to drive a potential death trap to and from SVA) vehicle to and from DVLA
registration, although if you pass(?) and you are able to acquire plates (yes without driving your KC to go and get them) you are allowed to drive it
home!!!!
Bloody Civil Servants.........................................................
Steve
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Chippy
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| posted on 28/3/07 at 11:31 PM |
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Yes, I had to at Portsmouth, they kept the receipts, plus the book. Some months later, (car had been registered, used, and layed up for winter), this
huge envelope arrived with all the receipts in, including the book.  Regards, Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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nitram38
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 05:47 AM |
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Why the hell do they also need the drawings when the sva have certified that it is safe to drive on the road?
They haven't got a clue!!!
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madteg
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 07:53 AM |
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dvla
I took mine to northampton last month, didnt have to show planes just told them that i had built it from the book and she new what book. Just goes to
show that they dont know what they are doing, you will probably end up with a 07 plate which would be nice.
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DavidM
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 07:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
Why the hell do they also need the drawings when the sva have certified that it is safe to drive on the road?
They haven't got a clue!!!
I had this problem at Northampton. They want the plans so that they can determine that it is a new chassis. In my case they sent copies of the plans
to Swansea for a ruling on whether I could have an age related plate. The main problem at Northampton is that the personnel responsible for amateur
built inspections keep changing, so there is no consistency. The "superior" woman then gets involved but as she doesn't know the
rules, she won't make a decision and refers everything to Swansea.
David
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BenB
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 08:14 AM |
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The DVLA have the combined muppet-ness of the Muppets and Sesame street put together...... Load of idiots....
Actually that's a bit unfair (on Sesame street), at least with Count Von Count his blatherings followed a logical progression....
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DarrenW
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 10:51 AM |
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On balance it sounds like your preparation actually resulted in a decent first contact with DVLA. I bet they are expecting you to come back with 3 or
4 sheets of paper ref the plans - i dare bet they wont copy the book (dont suppose they are legally allowed to either!)
Im so plaesed i had a home inspection. I fail to see how you are legally allowed to drive to an MOT and SVA before registration but not to the DVLA.
There is only one Police force after all. Very weird.
When mine was inspected she just wanted to ensure it looked like a car and had a chassis number on it. After that it was the paperwork she was more
interested in.
If you have receipts for loads of new bits i wouldnt be surprised if they then give you a new reg It has happened a few times recently with kit
builds.
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iank
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 11:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DavidM
quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
Why the hell do they also need the drawings when the sva have certified that it is safe to drive on the road?
They haven't got a clue!!!
I had this problem at Northampton. They want the plans so that they can determine that it is a new chassis. In my case they sent copies of the plans
to Swansea for a ruling on whether I could have an age related plate. The main problem at Northampton is that the personnel responsible for amateur
built inspections keep changing, so there is no consistency. The "superior" woman then gets involved but as she doesn't know the
rules, she won't make a decision and refers everything to Swansea.
David
If you want a hard but more interesting life point out that if she photocopies the plans she is breaking the law (copyright).
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Chippy
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| posted on 29/3/07 at 10:09 PM |
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I would guess that was why they retained my book, due to copy write, but at least they sent it back. Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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JamJah
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| posted on 30/3/07 at 07:47 AM |
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Guys,
Copyright law isnt "you are not allowed to photocopy".
Anyone is allowed to copy certain amounts. By the sounds of it they only photocopy two pages or so for the chassis plans. Even if the limits 10% they
could do a lot more.
I think they could also prove that they were doing it for not for profit use which didnt undermine the publisher or author therefore i doubt a judge
would withold any complaints.
They might somehow twist it into education use or disable use which alters copyright law again!
This is personal advise or personal opinion.
Constructive comments gratefully recieved, picking is left for noses.
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