Guinness
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 08:41 AM |
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The System isn't Working then?
Just saw this on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6707367.stm
"The number plate system needs to be completely overhauled to beat a rise in "car cloning", police have said."
And
"Acpo's Coventry-based Vehicle Crime Intelligence Service says it now has no confidence in the ability of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing
Agency (DVLA) licensing system to prevent cloning."
No confidence in the DVLA? Really? And I always thought that they were great 
Mike
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 08:52 AM |
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Its just another attempt to get closer to a police state where the government will know exactly the location of any individual at any time and exactly
what speed they are doing, and probably who they are with.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 10:17 AM |
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ah but when you get speeding/parking tickets for a place you have never been they will say"it cant happen,must have been you"
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Peteff
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 12:33 PM |
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This is why
the person owning the car should be registered using a number instead of issuing the vehicle with it's own number. If you were allocated a
number like your NI number and your vehicles were marked with it till sold then they took their new owner's number it would solve it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 12:54 PM |
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quote:
the person owning the car should be registered using a number instead of issuing the vehicle with it's own number. If you were allocated a
number like your NI number and your vehicles were marked with it till sold then they took their new owner's number it would solve it.
But surely the displayed no would still be cloneable??
It's a difficult one to solve and my preference would be a micro chip transmitter linked to a satellite that logs your miles ONLY it then sends
you a quarterly bill for the miles you've covered (NO ROAD TAX) no displayed numbers.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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caber
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 01:07 PM |
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The number plate system that has just been "harmonised" across Europe and seems perfectly adequate in other countries! I think this is a
revenue problem rather than a major criminal problem. Time they just gave up with speed cameras for enforcement and put up more of those signs that
flash your speed when exceeding the limit, from what I have seen these are very effective at making people slow down and stay slow for longer periods
than a camera where people brake just before the camera and accellerate after they have crossed all the lines in the road!
The other alternative is to review speed limits and increase them where the flow of traffic is generally faster than the current limit. There are way
too many 4 lane roads with minimal pedestrian traffic with 300 limits and many locations where 50 limits have been imposed on otherwise 70 MPH roads
in the vicinithy of cameras. At the junction betwen the M9 and M8 there is an underpass with a 50 limit and a speed camera at the bottom of the dip
behind one of the bridge columns. This cannot be an accident blackspot as the limit and camera were installed at the time the road opened!
Caber
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 01:11 PM |
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quote:
At the junction betwen the M9 and M8 there is an underpass with a 50 limit and a speed camera at the bottom of the dip behind one of the bridge
columns. This cannot be an accident blackspot as the limit and camera were installed at the time the road opened!
OH yes I know the one VERY VERY strategically placed and as you say it's not because of accidents
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 01:17 PM |
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To be fair - you have to be blind to miss that one though eh? I does leave very little faith in anything the government does... whether it's for
legitimate reasons or not!
Steve
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 04:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
the person owning the car should be registered using a number instead of issuing the vehicle with it's own number. If you were allocated a
number like your NI number and your vehicles were marked with it till sold then they took their new owner's number it would solve it.
This is what they do in Japan. The reg no. is transferred to your new car, when you sell your old one. Works well there.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Macbeast
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| posted on 2/6/07 at 06:53 PM |
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Same in Belgium (or used to be) Drivers are issued with licence plates ( made in prison workshops  ) and when a car is sold, the plate is
transferred to the new car. But yes, they could be cloned even though there was an official stamp embossed on the plate.
Actually, when last seen, my Belgian plates were fixed to a TV News hire car in Serbia - there was a good reason for that, at the time.
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