Confused but excited.
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:07 PM |
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Don't panic BUT.............
I have just finished talking to a mate in the stretch Limo business.
He has been involed in protracted discussions with VOSA for some time in relation to requirements for importing stretch limos (You think we have
problems).
The VOSA guy's parting shot was:
" There will no longer be an SVA in eighteen months time, only type approval".
This bombshell will be posted on the VOSA website in January to give people 12 months warning.
I assumed that this was only going to apply to limos, but the answer that I got was; not on your life.
All SVA testing is to be scrapped.
This means;
NO Kit Cars.
NO amateur builds, ie: us.
NO modifying cars.
ALL vehicles will have to be type approved, unless they are pre-2008 built!
Please, someone tell me this is a wind-up.
If it is, I shall stab his eyes out!
If not, MAN THE BARRICADES!  
Edit: Why do you always found out sh!t like this after 5.00pm on a Friday?
I shall be ringing VOSA on Monday.
[Edited on 19/10/07 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:11 PM |
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i've kind of been expecting something like this for a while...
hope it only relies to imports though! otherwise i'd better get a move on!
another great government plan to put a lot of people out of business
[Edited on 19/10/07 by blakep82]
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Danozeman
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:11 PM |
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If this is true id better hurry up and get mines done!!!
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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Delinquent
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:37 PM |
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I'm going to sit here all calmly and call "bullshit" from VOSA / your mate on this WRT kit cars and specials.
I have no choice but to do that, as otherwise I'd be weeping into my rapidly emptying pint.
[Edited on 19/10/07 by Delinquent]
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:40 PM |
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I can't see owt on the vosa site???? Surely it can't be true I mean how many folk/businesses will suffer?
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:46 PM |
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i can understand type approval relating to imports (would save a lot of time rather than SVAing every import that comes in) but i don't think
SVA will stop on self builds and kits
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balidey
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:48 PM |
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Type aproval IS coming, I have been to a couple of seminars on it, but it seems that SVA will not be scrapped, probably just re-named, as there are
currently type aproval designation letters assigned to kit cars. I did write a bit of a thread a while ago, see below.
BUT, this is still a few years away, and the details are still not confirmed about what will or will not be involved. And this has come from the
people that are setting up the type aproval.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=55572
The only thing that is certain is that VOSA will get very busy as the number of commercial vehicles and trailers and buses etc will increase, so
expect test dates to be bumped back. But that is about all we really know now.
And remember, when SVA was talked about it was thought to be the end of kits cars, so lets asume the same with Type Aproval. Even the government
wouldn't get rid of kit cars.
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afj
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:51 PM |
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so what happens when i die as a hearse needs a svaYour vehicle will be subject to the SVA scheme if it is one of the following:
Commercial Import
Personal Import
Amateur Built Vehicle
Very Low Volume (VLV) Vehicles
A vehicle manufactured using parts from a previously registered vehicle
Hearse
Armoured Vehicle
Rebuilt Vehicle
Left Hand Drive Vehicle (imported)
SVA is also available for motor caravans and ambulances.
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Delinquent
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:52 PM |
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quote:
Even the government wouldn't get rid of kit cars.
Have you not watched telly for a while?! Have you SEEN who's running this country?!?!
He'd have the spanners out your hand and slap a health and safety order on paper sketches.
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 07:53 PM |
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^ nanny state!
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mr henderson
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 08:11 PM |
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I think stretch limos should be banned on grounds of poor taste.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 08:12 PM |
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sorry what is type approval?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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balidey
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 08:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
sorry what is type approval?
If you wanted to build 50 cars the same, you wouldn't want to SVA all 50, so you get one tested, then it gets approved as a type. Then you can
build them.
Thats the BASICS, its very more involved than that though (before the pedants quote me on that )
[Edited on 19/10/07 by balidey]
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speedyxjs
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 posted on 19/10/07 at 08:24 PM |
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If they do give the go-ahead in january, i propose we all sign one of those online petitions and start with ALL the other related forums (westfield,
mk etc)
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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nib1980
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 08:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
I think stretch limos should be banned on grounds of poor taste.
or actually on the grounds of being completel unsafe!!!
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iank
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 08:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
If they do give the go-ahead in january, i propose we all sign one of those online petitions and start with ALL the other related forums (westfield,
mk etc)
Have you not noticed that they have ignored every online petition so far? I'm firmly of the opinion they are there so people sign a pointless
web-form rather than taking to the streets.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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RichieW
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 09:08 PM |
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The sad thing is these sort of developments have little to do with governments and MPs. Its more the ministries creating work for themselves.
Theres no backbench MP demanding this for his constituents and you wont find it in party manifestos either.
It doesn't matter whoever you vote for in the next election it will not make an ounce of difference to what goes on.
Theres far too much legislation/goings on like this these days. Its not headline news so the stuff just goes through. We are sleepwalking into a nanny
state where we're not allowed to do anything.
[Edited on 19/10/07 by RichieW]
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 09:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by balidey
The only thing that is certain is that VOSA will get very busy as the number of commercial vehicles and trailers and buses etc will increase.
I was only reporting what the VOSA bloke told my mate. Not trying to cause unnecessary panic.
However, if the above is true, then surely VOSA would be opening more SVA testing stations, not progessively closing them down.
My two nearest have been closed and I now will have to go to Manchester. If I beat the 'deadline'.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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rayward
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 09:29 PM |
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so if thats the case, what if MNR,MK,Wetsfield etc all "type approve" their car, then you could build one and register it without SVA?.
probably not I know, but a nice idea?
Ray
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iank
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 10:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rayward
so if thats the case, what if MNR,MK,Wetsfield etc all "type approve" their car, then you could build one and register it without SVA?.
probably not I know, but a nice idea?
Ray
'Fraid they'd have to build if for you.
They would be able to manufacture up to 500 a year and register them.
See http://www.vca.gov.uk/additional/files/vehicle-type-approval/vehicle-type-approval/vca001.pdf for the gory details.
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D Beddows
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 10:53 PM |
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>sigh< someone says 'don't panic' so everyone instantly does - you've got to love the British 
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/10/07 at 07:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
If they do give the go-ahead in january, i propose we all sign one of those online petitions and start with ALL the other related forums (westfield,
mk etc)
Have you not noticed that they have ignored every online petition so far? I'm firmly of the opinion they are there so people sign a pointless
web-form rather than taking to the streets.
Then how about we take to the streets 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:49 AM |
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Nothing like a bit of mis-information to get the whole country panicking!
SVA will be 'scrapped' but only because it will be renamed IVA (individual vehicle approval) to be brought in line with the name for the
new individual approvals of trailers, commercial vehicles, etc.
IVA should, as the name suggests, allow for much the same process as we go through now, there may or may not be changes at the same time as the name
change but we'll have to wait and see! You can be sure that amateur-built vehicles will still be more than capable of passing the tests as the
market in this country is huge.
[Edited on 24/10/07 by matt_claydon]
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iank
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Nothing like a bit of mis-information to get the whole country panicking!
SVA will be scrapped but only because it will be renamed IVA (individual vehicle approval) to be brought in line with the name for the new individual
approvals of trailers, commercial vehicles, etc.
While not panicking (yet  ) it's quite possible they will go through and tighten some regulations at the changeover. It's a logical
time/place to make any changes they've been saving up as they will have to reprint/re-issue all the SVA manuals.
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Anonymous
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 11:21 AM |
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Just spoken to VOSA help desk and they have not been informed of any changes.
I was told that "they would be the first to know, as they are the first point of contact for enquiries".
After matt obviously.
Well done that man, we can all sleep easily in our beds now.
Wouldn't you think that they would tell their help desk first?
So much for the information age.
Profound apologies all round for any distress caused.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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