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coozer

posted on 11/4/08 at 04:03 PM Reply With Quote
Seat belt bolts?

I know the seat belt bolts need to have 8.8 min stamp on them but what about OEM bolts?

Just got some out of a Ford Ka and wondering what Mr. SVA will say about them. They have some letters stamped on them but no numbers.

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madmandegge

posted on 11/4/08 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
Not that I have to pass SVA but I wondered about this, I've got to attach my seat belts soon, wondered about bolts!

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jollygreengiant

posted on 11/4/08 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
Numbers = metric bolts. Seat belts usually are higher than 8.8 (12.2 IIRC)

Letters = denote Imperial thread.





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matt_claydon

posted on 11/4/08 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
12.2 would be a very bizarre material! I think you mean 12.9 although seat belt bolts do not have to be that high spec, 8.8 is adequate. Since seatbelt bolts are imperial (7/16 I believe, which is about 11.1mm) they are unlikely to be marked 8.8 or 12.9. Do a google to find the equivalent imperial markings.

Edit to add:
quote:
SVA manual said:
A suitable single bolt fixing of adequate
strength would be, for example, a bolt of at least 11mm ( 7/16" ) diameter of grade 8.8 (the grade may not be shown on a bolt produced for a seat belt anchorage).

Other bolt fixings may be acceptable providing they are of equivalent strength.




[Edited on 11/4/08 by matt_claydon]

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jollygreengiant

posted on 11/4/08 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
I did say 12.2 IIRC. not bad from memory I knew it was 12 something. From a point stress point of view I know the SVA manual say 8.8 or higher, but then WHY do most manufacturers fit 12.9. The reason - safety factor. Basic principal, if its good enough reason from the major manufacturers then its good enough for me, I would appreciate the extra safety margin if for no other reason than peace of mind.





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Davey D

posted on 12/4/08 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
Ive just bought a set of Sabelt Harnesses, adn the bolts on them say 8.8

does this means they are metric? what thread are the bosses in MNR Chassis? as i havent tried fitting them yet






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matt_claydon

posted on 12/4/08 at 02:44 PM Reply With Quote
Very unlikely to be metric, seatbelt bolts are pretty much a standard. 7/16" (UNF I think, but I'm not familiar with imperial threads)
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Davey D

posted on 13/4/08 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
Ok.. ive just tried them, and they fit fine... so whatever type of bolt you get with Sabelt Harnesses is the correct fitment for you MNR :-)






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bigpig

posted on 21/1/09 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
Imperial bolts are marked with a series of lines to denote strength. Grade 5 is supposed to be equiv of 8.8.
I found this reference:
Imperial Bolt Markings

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wicket

posted on 21/1/09 at 10:55 PM Reply With Quote
I have Securon seat belts fitted and they came with 7/16" UNF grade 5 bolts, the type with 3 equi-spaced lines on the head, and they were fine at SVA
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bigpig

posted on 22/1/09 at 11:36 PM Reply With Quote
My securon belts were only marked with an 'S' not the three lines :-(

They heads were like toffee.

So I've bought new bolts.

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bigpig

posted on 24/1/09 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
...And the head of the old bolt sheared off trying to remove it
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