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Weird Handling pt2
The Baron - 3/4/09 at 03:18 PM

After playing around with the tyre pressures, (now at 18psi) and setting the camber angle back to 1 degree (top in) i have turned my attention to the toe in angle. i have been using a trial and error method of adjusting driving adjusting. i am making progress all be it very slowly.

how do people generally set or measure thier toe angles, what weird and wonderful tracking gauges have people made?

Cheers,

B


britishtrident - 3/4/09 at 04:31 PM

Ride height & corner weights should always be checked first before touching anything else otherwise you will end chasing your own tail.


Hellfire - 3/4/09 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by The Baron
After playing around with the tyre pressures, (now at 18psi) and setting the camber angle back to 1 degree (top in) i have turned my attention to the toe in angle. i have been using a trial and error method of adjusting driving adjusting. i am making progress all be it very slowly.

how do people generally set or measure thier toe angles, what weird and wonderful tracking gauges have people made?

Cheers,

B


We used two 2m lengths of angle iron on ours. Bolted to the hubs and adjusted until measurements between them at the front and at the ends were equal. Alternatively, you could use string and 'box' the wheels to ensure front and rear are in line and running straight. Obviously you can only do the rears if they are adjustable for toe.

Phil


Hellfire - 3/4/09 at 04:45 PM

Pictures, words and all that...............

Phil



britishtrident - 3/4/09 at 07:25 PM

Cars has to be sitting on its wheels normally loaded - as it is normally used ie driver or driver+pasenger + fuel. before the toe in can be set.


Gunson Trakrite is probably the cheapest DIY option --- it is very accurate for setting toe-in across the axle but can't measure the toe on each wheel individually and like most Gunson gadgets it won't take hard use.

http://www.gunson.co.uk/item.aspx?cat=676&item=1812


prawnabie - 3/4/09 at 09:09 PM

Hellfire, I may be wildly off here but this is confusing me!

When you put the car back on its wheels, did you get more toe out due to the arc the tie rod takes when the suspension is moving to its settling point?

Thanks

Shaun


Hellfire - 4/4/09 at 07:09 PM

We took that picture just as we'd started to track the front end. Figured it would be easier to get it somewhere near before dropping the front end to ride height using blocks of wood beneath the wishbones and adding a driver before finalising.

Phil


wozsher - 5/4/09 at 08:58 AM

Hi B
Have you ckecked for bump steer?


NS Dev - 5/4/09 at 10:20 AM

I have a home made guage like a huge g-clamp, that spans right round the front wheels, with an m6 screw in each "clamp" bit.

Set it round the rear of the front wheel rims with the car sat and bounced a couple of times, then test the front of the wheel rims, count the number of turns of the m6 screw to take up the gap and that is the toe in mm.