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Forming rigid brake lines
johnH20 - 12/5/09 at 05:26 PM

I am currently fitting out my car with brake lines. Forming the bends in the right place is proving problematical. At the moment I am making up a series of single bends in old brake pipe and pinning them together with welding rod to make a model which I can copy for the real thing. This works but is very tedious suggestions on a better method would be appreciated.


pewe - 12/5/09 at 05:39 PM

I use opened out wire coat-hangers as it's easy to bend and strung it together with duct tape.
HTH.
Cheers, Pewe


zetec - 12/5/09 at 05:47 PM

Have you got a proper bending tool? Makes life easier as you can guage better how much pipe is taken up with the bend.


jps - 21/9/22 at 11:00 AM

Just bumping this up incase there is any other experience that can be shared - I've got a 'proper' pipe bending tool, which is helping with forming nice curves without any kinks. In terms of making the overall piece (all of which have multiple curves/direction changes in them) i'm currently using the 'wire coat hanger' approach for individual sections, but they're not so easy to come by these days!


loggyboy - 21/9/22 at 11:31 AM

I used twin and earth as its solid core and holds it shape, also insulation stops scratching of chassis etc.
Once I had the basic shape I offered up the lines and bent by hand to finalise. But to be fair I didn't have many complicated shapes to bend around.

StrikerFrontLines
StrikerFrontLines


StrikerRearLines
StrikerRearLines


[Edited on 21-9-22 by loggyboy]


jps - 21/9/22 at 11:45 AM

Probably i've made it a lot worse for myself by having the transmission tunnel panels on, and the engine/gearbox/diff all in place.

My approach is that this means i definitely will fit pipework around the items that have a fixed location - but to be fair it is making it hard to get the shapes in order to run 1 piece fuel and brake lines down the transmission tunnel from the engine bay all the way into the boot...


loggyboy - 21/9/22 at 11:55 AM

Yes, I had my box/prop/Diff in loosely and was in and out a few times at that stage to ensure things didnt clash, but allow easier access.


rusty nuts - 21/9/22 at 06:10 PM

I use a liner from a 3mt MIG torch to mock up the longer brake pipe runs to calculate the required lengths then cut the pipe accordingly, I use a small pipe bender if needed for larger bends and a pair of Pipeaid pliers for tighter bends


Slimy38 - 22/9/22 at 07:27 AM

I don't know whether I made things harder for myself because I used Kunifer instead of copper. That stuff needed a tool to get decent curves. It was only a cheap pipe bender from screwfix though.

Coat hangers were my tool of choice for planning the route, we've built up quite a collection over the years and they're great for route planning, going fishing in trunking and behind cavity walls etc.


nick205 - 22/9/22 at 08:11 AM

On my MK Indy I worked slowly by hand forming the hard brake and fuel lines by hand. Holding them in place with cable ties as I went and then going back with P clips and rivets. The lines weren't perfect, but they worked without fault (no leaks) and no rubbing or clashes. Yes it took time, but it was a satisfying job to do.

Where it changed from a hard to flexi pipe I made metal brakets using Ally strip rivetted to the chassis.

Front brake pipe routing
Front brake pipe routing


Rear upright brake pipe routin
Rear upright brake pipe routin


fuel tank + pick up connection
fuel tank + pick up connection


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nick205 - 22/9/22 at 08:23 AM

Right angle drill chuck attachment

You might also find one of these really useful to get into tight spots for drilling holes in chassis rails.

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radca-nick205
radca-nick205


[Edited on 22/9/22 by nick205]