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using rosejoints on front uprights
boggle - 15/3/10 at 04:37 PM

hi all...

what are peoples views on using rose joints on the front suspension setup, ie top wishbone to upright, steering trackrod end??

also can you get them to fit the upright or do you need a taper adaptor??

cheers

barry

[Edited on 15/3/10 by boggle]

blakep82 - 15/3/10 at 04:41 PM

i'm using them all round on mine (well, i still have ball joints for top and bottom of the upright, but everything else is rose jointed)

better easier adjustment, better feel apparently

but

more harsh road noise transferred, and they can wear out pretty quick if not looked after.

but on balance, I'd do it. well, i am doing it lol

blakep82 - 15/3/10 at 04:42 PM

lol

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I appreciate that Rose-Joints offer adjustability, but that aside... which lasts longer if exposed to the rigors of everyday use?

I guess what I'm saying is, I know Bushes degrade over time... do Rose-Joints?



you can get little rubber covers to keep the grit out of rose joints

scootz - 15/3/10 at 04:58 PM

I've deleted my Thread on the same subject (two threads about the same thing at the same time... anyone would think this was some kind of kit-car site or something!).

blakep82 - 15/3/10 at 05:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've deleted my Thread on the same subject (two threads about the same thing at the same time... anyone would think this was some kind of kit-car site or something!).


oops, i assumed you hit new thread instead of post reply

MikeRJ - 15/3/10 at 05:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by boggle
hi all...

what are peoples views on using rose joints on the front suspension setup, ie top wishbone to upright, steering trackrod end??


IMO it's an expensive exercise if you are using the car on the road. Standard track rod ends are sprung loaded so that any wear is automatically compensated for, this is not the case in a rod end which will develop play as soon as any wear occurs.

The only real advantages a rod end can offer is higher strength (if you buy the decent ones £££ ) and lower friction. For road use I doubt either advantage would outweigh the increased cost and lower life.

richardh - 15/3/10 at 05:41 PM

they are better for 4x4 off roading but not really on road use for reasons as said above.

a high cost that you wont get back or a lot of benefit from - unless you are tracking it most of the time - and can afford to replace

boggle - 15/3/10 at 05:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've deleted my Thread on the same subject (two threads about the same thing at the same time... anyone would think this was some kind of kit-car site or something!).


great minds think alike....

boggle - 15/3/10 at 05:47 PM

my old bosses rallycross renault v6 was changed to rosejoints because the prep engineer said they would be more responsive than standard ball joints and easyer to adjust...

but how do you fit them into a cortina upright???

my whole rear end on my car is rosejointed....and i know that the blackjack avion is a rosejointed setup....

if they are no good for a fast road car why do people sell them???

kipper - 15/3/10 at 06:13 PM

my cortina set up has rose joints on the top of the uprights.
I bought the kit of parts from MNR, they used to be on their web site, been on for three years now with no bother.
Regards Denis.

Edit to say the rose joint kit improved the self centering no end.

[Edited on 15/3/10 by kipper]

scootz - 15/3/10 at 06:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by boggle
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've deleted my Thread on the same subject (two threads about the same thing at the same time... anyone would think this was some kind of kit-car site or something!).


great minds think alike....


Indeed!