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Clever gearbox design
mangogrooveworkshop - 7/4/10 at 10:02 PM

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2865950.htm


MakeEverything - 7/4/10 at 10:06 PM

Excellent.

There will still be a high demand for Type 9's and renault transaxles though!!!!


tomgregory2000 - 7/4/10 at 10:17 PM

No more red line smoking starts then


tegwin - 7/4/10 at 10:24 PM

Been things like this around for a while..

The one I remeber is the two cones with a belt for constant variation gears..


The big issue with that design is going to be the drag from all the counter rotating gubbins etc....


MikeRJ - 7/4/10 at 10:45 PM

There are many different types of CVT and IVT, but they all have various disadvantages. If this guy has managed to make an infinitely variable transmission that doesn't rely on traction drives, or ratcheting mechanisms etc. that are lossy, torque limited and/or don't give smooth output rotation then he will very likely become rich.


robocog - 7/4/10 at 10:57 PM

Daf Variomatic is the only one I can think of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8AzqtomwD0

Never been in one to pass judgement..but would have thought they would still be in used if they wre any cop?

Another way could be to use hydraulics
eg engine driving a hydraulic pump, and using hydraulic motors on each wheel?
(vaguely recall a 2WD motorbike prototype using something similar...may have been on here even?)

Happy enough being in full manual control over what gear and when....regular automatics always panic the bezeesus out of me whenever i'm forced into driving them
constantly worried they will stall at junctions or 'forget to change gear" or even worse decide to change into an inaprpriate one one the motorway!

I'm not 100% sure how automatics work (other than black magic and valves bathed in foul smelling "cats pee" smelling oil) and not sure it would put my mind at rest even if I did vaguely understand them better...

Regards
Rob


richardlee237 - 8/4/10 at 06:42 AM

From what I can see it is an epicyclic gearbox with the annulus gear controlled by a driven layshaft which needs a variable speed drive.
If so then the design has been around for years on things like aircraft constant speed propellers
The question for automotive use is how do you control the layshaft without introducing unacceptable losses.


coozer - 8/4/10 at 07:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Been things like this around for a while..

The one I remember is the two cones with a belt for constant variation gears..


My old 2 stroke Speedy has cones and springs and belts.... wish it had a 'normal' box!


MikeRJ - 8/4/10 at 11:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by richardlee237
From what I can see it is an epicyclic gearbox with the annulus gear controlled by a driven layshaft which needs a variable speed drive.
If so then the design has been around for years on things like aircraft constant speed propellers
The question for automotive use is how do you control the layshaft without introducing unacceptable losses.


Reading the patent that does appear to be the case. It's not dissimilar to Toyotas "Hybrid Synergy Drive" on the Prius that uses epicyclic gears to split power between two motors and the internal combustion engine. In Toyotas case they use one of the motors to provide the variable speed drive.