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mark_rayfield - 12/9/02 at 07:23 PM

Having just wasted another day in the garage I hurl myself before The Forum once again:

Rear diff on an escort axle is not keen on coming apart! Also half-shafts seem happy where they are!

This wouldn't normally be a problem, except that Merlin has kindly agreed to weld on some suspension brakets for me, and I didn't think he'd be too keen on hefting the whole bloody thing around as it weighs a tonne. As such I'm trying to pull the thing apart so that I can give him just the casing.

I've had a go at bashing the hell out of a wheel inner once re-united with it's half shaft, but the things just are not shifting!

Also, having undone the ring of nuts around the outside rim of the diff flange I now find that it too is reluctant to be freed. I can get it about half inch clear, but now the gears seem to be holding it firm in place (it doesn't even want to go back!)- and I don't really want to damage them.

Suffice to say I mad a big mess using lots of diff fluid, but other than that achieved nothing!

If all else fails I may be in the market for a new rear axle....

Any help or advice more than welcome

Mark


paulf - 12/9/02 at 10:04 PM

The diff will not come out until you have removed the halfshafts as they engage into it.You would really be best to obtain or make a proper shaft puller, or maybe apply a little heat to the bearing housing end of the axle.
Paul.

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Having just wasted another day in the garage I hurl myself before The Forum once again:

I've had a go at bashing the hell out of a wheel inner once re-united with it's half shaft, but the things just are not shifting!

Also, having undone the ring of nuts around the outside rim of the diff flange I now find that it too is reluctant to be freed. I can get it about half inch clear, but now the gears seem to be holding it firm in place (it doesn't even want to go back!)- and I don't really want to damage them.

Suffice to say I mad a big mess using lots of diff fluid, but other than that achieved nothing!

If all else fails I may be in the market for a new rear axle....

Any help or advice more than welcome

Mark


JohnFol - 13/9/02 at 07:38 AM

The way I did it was to losen the brake shoe backing plate (with the shoes and gubbins removed first). It can't be removed but it does allow movement. Then, using a suitable lump of metal through the inspection hole, you can hammer direclt onto the end of the half shaft. A few swift clouts and it will come out.
I am of course dreading putting it back in


philgregson - 13/9/02 at 10:57 AM

I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't remember the outcome and I'm too lazy to look at past posts so here goes:

Is it really neccessary to remove the half shafts to weld the suspension brackets on I would have thought the chances of damage were very slim.

I just can't bear the thoughts of all this half shaft trauma that every one seems to go through!


JohnFol - 13/9/02 at 12:27 PM

I blindly followed the book and removed them. I have had the same thought as you however decided removal was best.
My reasons were:

Easier to handle and clean axle

Fear of having hot metal in contact with oil inside the axle.

With hind sight (and a few pictures showing the opposite) I would consider leaving them in if I did a 2nd build.


mark_rayfield - 13/9/02 at 02:34 PM

So you knock it through the hole to loosen it and then pull it out same as normal?

Sounds nice and easy...

cheers for the advice guys - any further comments still welcome!

Mark


theconrodkid - 13/9/02 at 03:25 PM

where are you,ive got a slide hammer that will get them out faster than you can make a cup of tea


mark_rayfield - 14/9/02 at 08:13 PM

The axle is in a place near to Ware.
I live in Bishop's Stortford which is a 15min drive away, and is smack on top of Stansted Airport and M11 Junction 8 - for anyone who uses it that's where the road works are!

Be great to borrow it - I looked into hiring one, but it's £30 ish for a weekend!

Your very welcome to stop by tho and have a giggle at the lack of progress. If you give us fair warning I'll get some tea in!

If not, I might be able to swing by yours on the way to Merlin's pad? You're in London aren't you?


scutter - 14/9/02 at 10:25 PM

theconrodkid, likes his tea made with fizzy water!!!!!


theconrodkid - 15/9/02 at 06:53 AM

Yup frothy tea is good for you,my garage is in south harrow,phone no 0208 423 1025,not far from merlins place,gis a ring ps i also like cream cakes.


mark_rayfield - 15/9/02 at 11:27 PM

I'll give you a bell once I get my life in order and know when I'm going to Merlin's. I might be down there sooner tho as I've got mate's who've just moved to Harrow.... Anyways - I'll warn you if I'm coming and I'll bring some baked goods.


theconrodkid - 16/9/02 at 03:50 PM

Im allways easier to talk to when i have some food inside me,prefrably fried or the cream cake variety


theconrodkid - 16/9/02 at 03:50 PM

Im allways easier to talk to when i have some food inside me,prefrably fried or the cream cake variety


Hasse - 17/9/02 at 10:06 AM

Hi,

Just a proposal, this is the way I did:

Take a way the four nuts holding the "end plate" close to the bearing and turn this end plate a little bit, about 10mmm or so.
Refit the four nuts from the backside, so the end of the nuts meets the twisted end plate. Tighten the nuts a little bit at each nut, and the axle is gently forced out.

Worked great for me.

Good luck.

/Hasse


mark_rayfield - 5/12/02 at 06:33 PM

I know you guys were all desperate to know how this situation panned out....

Anyways - it's all sorted!

Usual mechanics approach - it was all sorted by hitting it much harder with a much bigger hammer!!

I now need a new wheel rim, but that's a whole nother story....

Many thanks to all for your advice - now I've just gotta go get my chassis! Great Stuff

Mark