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What are these front calipers?
six mad - 10/6/13 at 06:40 PM

Evening all,

I,m looking to refurb my front hubs and calipers.

The pads are fine EBC greens and provide great stopping power and braking is well balanced.

I,m thinking of a rub down and paint but was wondering what these calipers are from? I believe they are AP racing?

Thanks in advance.


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Peteff - 10/6/13 at 07:26 PM

Look like Princess 4 pot if they are fitted to Cortina uprights.

Andy S - 10/6/13 at 07:29 PM

50kg's of Austin Princess's finest - AP Lockheed but Racing......... Nah.

Weight them and the discs in with some Escort boys and replace with some Willwoods and a solid 10mm disc. and save yourself about 20kg's

[Edited on 10/6/13 by Andy S]

six mad - 10/6/13 at 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Andy S
50kg's of Austin Princess's finest - AP Lockheed but Racing......... Nah.

Weight them and the discs in with some Escort boys and replace with some Willwoods and a solid 10mm disc. and save yourself about 20kg's

[Edited on 10/6/13 by Andy S]


Wow thats a lot of weight, Yes i have looked at the Hi Specs.

What are these worth with like new EBC pads?

MikeRJ - 10/6/13 at 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by six mad
Wow thats a lot of weight,


I think there was a little bit of exaggeration there! That said they are pretty hefty lumps of metal that weigh around 4.5kg each. The Ford M16 calipers aren't much lighter either.

deeceee09 - 10/6/13 at 08:41 PM

I'd go for Mintex M1144 pads unless you do serious racing stuff. They are fine from cold and not too sensitive on bedding in. I have used them for track days for years and they seem fine for sprinting too although some may disagree.

six mad - 10/6/13 at 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by six mad
Wow thats a lot of weight,


I think there was a little bit of exaggeration there! That said they are pretty hefty lumps of metal that weigh around 4.5kg each. The Ford M16 calipers aren't much lighter either.



Not really worth upgrading to hi specs then for odd track days and road use?

MikeRJ - 11/6/13 at 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by six mad
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by six mad
Wow thats a lot of weight,


I think there was a little bit of exaggeration there! That said they are pretty hefty lumps of metal that weigh around 4.5kg each. The Ford M16 calipers aren't much lighter either.



Not really worth upgrading to hi specs then for odd track days and road use?


It terms of stopping power no, but it will give a useful reduction in unsprung weight (HiSpec calipers are about 1kg each IIRC). With the suspension properly set up taking 3.5kg off both front corners should be noticeable on a track.

steve m - 11/6/13 at 07:29 AM

They do look like the same as mine, and i have Greenstuff pads in mine
you really need to have the 257mm disks as well, (i dont) as the pads will leave about 5mm of unused area on the outside of the pad, the bit nearest the wheels
I am not sure how much more braking i would have if all the pad was in contact,

As for the braking with these callipers, i would estimate them to be about 50% better than the M16 originaly fitted, and transformed my braking problems, when i built the car,

my setup

steve m - 11/6/13 at 07:31 AM

Ps, as Mike states, they are heavier than the M16 but not a great deal more, but the braking increase weighs against the weight

six mad - 11/6/13 at 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by steve m
Ps, as Mike states, they are heavier than the M16 but not a great deal more, but the braking increase weighs against the weight


Thanks Steve,

So all in all not a bad caliper by the sounds of it, going on the replies i will spend money on other
priority upgrades first, yes i can see the advantage of 1kg calipers over 4kg+ they will certainly
be on my future wish list. Interesting about the size of the discs and i notice you have a solid disc.

Don,t worry about the English it is a car forum at the end of the day not school.