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mintex 1144 pads -do i fit them?
02GF74 - 30/7/14 at 12:21 PM

Trying to improve my braking distance so have fitted drilled-grooved disv and got s set of mintex 1144 pads.


On the box it says: this material must not be used on public highways.

So should i fit them or not?

Also in the box are four self adhesive pads. I am guessing they go on the back at the front, similar to the steel shims.

Do I used them without the shims or with the shims? Or not at all?



I dont race round like crazy but more or less pootle along - my understanding is that certain compounds work better when hot , something not likely with my style of driving.

I looking for good grip with cold discs and pads.

[Edited on 30/7/14 by 02GF74]

[Edited on 30/7/14 by 02GF74]

monkeyarms - 30/7/14 at 12:29 PM

I have them on my J15, at 500kg and 125hp the brakes work great from cold, hot and trackdays

I put the sticy pads on and use shims, no problems.

Good pad for kit cars I think.

[Edited on 30/7/14 by monkeyarms]

adithorp - 30/7/14 at 12:34 PM

Fit them; You'll notice a big improvement. I would fit the shims as well as they are known for squeeling (though I've never suffered). There was a thread last week with the correct bedding in procedure.

Drilled/grooved discs won't improve stopping distance under normal circumstances. They'll just reduce glazing (while increasing wear rate) and reduce fade under extream use, when the pads start to gas.

02GF74 - 30/7/14 at 01:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by monkeyarms
I have them on my J15, at 500kg and 125hp the brakes work great from cold, hot and trackdays

I put the sticy pads on and use shims, no problems.

Good pad for kit cars I think.

[Edited on 30/7/14 by monkeyarms]


Where did you stick the pads?

I am guessing the front hallf at the back and make small hole for the pin?

Off to google as i am sbout to fit them.

monkeyarms - 30/7/14 at 06:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by monkeyarms
I have them on my J15, at 500kg and 125hp the brakes work great from cold, hot and trackdays

I put the sticy pads on and use shims, no problems.

Good pad for kit cars I think.

[Edited on 30/7/14 by monkeyarms]


Where did you stick the pads?

I am guessing the front hallf at the back and make small hole for the pin?

Off to google as i am sbout to fit them.



I cant remember specificaly, but i dont think i had to make a hole, just stuck them on I think.
I have Ford M16 calipers if that makes any difference?.

snapper - 30/7/14 at 06:22 PM

1144's are fast road
1155 are track
Check your numbers
Or
Perhaps
They were imported from a country that does not allow these modifications

Surrey Dave - 30/7/14 at 07:46 PM

Mintex 1144 best thing I ever did for my Locost/Cortina brakes...............

Don't hesitate.

mcerd1 - 31/7/14 at 01:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Trying to improve my braking distance so have fitted drilled-grooved disv and got s set of mintex 1144 pads.
On the box it says: this material must not be used on public highways.
So should i fit them or not?


they have to say 'must not be used on public highways' as they don't have the relevant approvals for some reason or other
Reg 90 says the friction must be within 15% of the original's for that application - so maybe M1144's are too good ???


approved pads should have an 'E11' mark on them

so technically if you had an accident and the found that the pads weren't approved you could be held liable (just like if you bought tyres without the right approvals for Europe etc....)



if you want to be 100% legal you could try the OE spec mintex ones (really good as far as OE spec goes and a lot cheaper too) but they won't perform as well as the M1144's

[Edited on 31/7/2014 by mcerd1]

[Edited on 31/7/2014 by mcerd1]

eddie99 - 31/7/14 at 02:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
1144's are fast road
1155 are track
Check your numbers
Or
Perhaps
They were imported from a country that does not allow these modifications


1144 are soft, 1155 are harder than 44, and 66 is harder again

Surrey Dave - 31/7/14 at 02:25 PM

Mintex 1144 pads may not conform to European Standards but you will be able to stop BUT you could get sued or not paid out by insurer if you have an accident

OE pads will conform but will only make a mild rubbing noise , with little retardation so you are more likely to have an accident ,but at least you won't get sued!!! ..........I'm getting OLD!









[Edited on 31/7/14 by Surrey Dave]

britishtrident - 31/7/14 at 03:10 PM

How could anyone tell what brake pads you have fitted anyway , even with a strip down!

The only major case involving upgraded brakes I know of was a serious one involving an idiot who fitted a Range Rover front calliper to one side only on LR Defender.This would give almost 50percent more braking on one front wheel.
The consequences were tragic but nobody on this forum is that big an idiot.

[Edited on 31/7/14 by britishtrident]

loggyboy - 31/7/14 at 04:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
How could anyone tell what brake pads you have fitted anyway , even with a strip down!

The only major case involving upgraded brakes I know of was a serious one involving an idiot who fitted a Range Rover front calliper to one side only on LR Defender.This would give almost 50percent more braking on one front wheel.
The consequences were tragic but nobody on this forum is that big an idiot.

[Edited on 31/7/14 by britishtrident]


Depends on the severity of the accident, if deaths/serious harm are involved, police will full inspect the vehicles involved. I would suspect the smallest markings left on the back of the pad (names/part no's etc) would identify them.