I'm at the point in my build where I need to buy a set of dampers, I'm thinking about going with protech. Is any one interested in a group buy if I can secure a discount?
I would be. What kind of discount are you aiming for?
im up for it was going to buy some this/next week but can hang on
Thanks for the intrest, I will get quotes for 3 and 5 sets and get back to everybody.
i could be interested depending on price
I could be interested at the right price.
What dampers would you be looking at.
Replaced my rears four years ago with protechs from procomp with new springs, and could well be tempted into doing the same at the front.
Daniel
Would be up for a pair of fronts only.
Me to but same as everyone else price dependent
I was going to hold out until the New Year for a pair of double adjustables but if the price is right then happy to chip in and make up the numbers
Like every one else I'm interested in the saving that can be secured, and this is my only motivation for trying to organize a group buy. I also
understand that people may want different shocks sizes from standard (I know that I do), please can you post the following information in the table
below. I will ues the rough numbers so far to look at the price brakes.
Does any one know how to do proper tables on this forum?
Dampers
User Name Number Open length Closed length Diameter mounting bolt size Rose Jointed Double Adjustable
Ceebmoj 4 14" 10" 2.25" 1/2" Yes
Maby
Springs
Username Number lb/" free length Diameter
Ceebmoj 2 375 7" 2.5"
Ceebmoj 2 350 7" 2.5"
Interested in a car set of single or double adj depending on price - will come back with lengths
James
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Interested in a car set of single or double adj depending on price - will come back with lengths
James
A previous group buy on here managed to get to £330 for 4 dampers and springs delivered I believe with 5 buyers!
(http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=133534)
[Edited on 25/11/14 by cloudy]
quote:Which in today's money appears to be about £375.
Originally posted by cloudy
A previous group buy on here managed to get to £330 for 4 dampers and springs delivered [in 2010] I believe with 5 buyers!
(http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=133534)
I have been in contact with the suppler today, who committed to having prices for Monday. I will post the prices as soon as I have them.
thanks
Hi all,
So I got some numbers from the guys at pro tech. Depending on exactly, how many people get involved in the group buy. The prices may go up or down a
little. The prices do not include any form of shipping, it was proposed that I could collect all the shocks and post them out, or people can collect
from me in the Manchester area for an extra saving.
1. 400 Series Single Adjustable, Bonded Bush ~ £75
2. 600 Series Single Adjustable, Bearing ~ £80
3. 600 Series Double Adjustable, bearing ~ £150
4. Spring ~ £20
All prices are for a single item.
Please can every one let me know what they think? If you are interested in getting involved in the group buy, I will need to know what you want so
that the final numbers can be put together.
Is this including vat?
All prices are including vat
£150 is a stonking price! I'm hoping they would honor that for the double adjustable 400 series (1.9" ID springs) which is the same price on
their website...
Would all payments therefore go via you?
James
It's my understanding that the prices will be matched as you would expect. But let me know what you want and I will get the final prices.
To minimize the admin over head for protech the idea is that deal is run through me.
It's my understanding that the prices will be matched as you would expect. But let me know what you want and I will get the final prices.
To minimize the admin over head for protech the idea is that deal is run through me.
Looks good. I presume my current shocks are the 400 series but would have to look into that.
When I was buying last time, certainly for the rear, there was a lot of talk about getting them re-valved to suit the lighter car else you would ended
up running them on the lightest setting all the time, which was one of the drivers for getting them via procomp rather than direct. Things might have
moved on since then, but will these come valved to suit lighter cars?
Daniel
The shocks are direct from protech. However I have recently seen the following thread that has some details on further adjustment to the operating
range. if this is a deal breaker please let me know.
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=194976
I have only had conformation from one person, other than my self being interested in a set so far. If people are not interested that is OK, but I
would like to know so that I can get my parts ordered and move the build on, over the Christmas break.
[Edited on 2/12/14 by ceebmoj]
Ceeb - just sorting out spring poundages and will get my order confirmed - might be worth putting some deadlines up to work towards
James
The deadline is a good idea, unless any one can see a good reason not to. The dead line is 22:00 on the 10th December 2014. That's one weak from today. By that time I need to know what items people want, so that I can get final cost together. I will be collecting funds the following weekend i.e. the 13 and 14 December. The goal will be to get the shocks to people before Christmas.
Shopping list U2U'd 
I'm looking for some Haynes Roadster rear dampers
Looking on the Protech site it states the following regarding the Haynes roadster dampers;
4 x 400 Series Dampers With extended Top eye.
Is the extended top eye standard? if not, is this an option within the £75 offer?
Adam not sure if different - but I understand if the price is the same it'll likely be the same discount
when I spoke to them
they are pretty flexible I think as long as its not outrageous they will do it for what ever the price is
Thanks for the responses
Hi Ceeb,
Will U2U this over but:
4x Protech Shocks 400 Series Single Adjustable Bearing 1.9" I.D - 11" open - 1/2" spherical
2x springs 6" length 1.9" Diameter 150lbs
2x springs 6" length 1.9" Diameter 125lbs
Expecting the total price to be around £400
Many Thanks
James
Thinking about it I can only stretch to one pair of shocks as the moment, I'm guessing the front are the most important if you had to pick?
The car has a locost front setup and Haynes roadster IRS. As I purchased part built, I've not fully assessed the existing suspension, I just know
it needs replacing. Is there a standard size and spring rate for the front that is typically used on locost to help me place the order?
you need to take it off and measure them up
length, spring diameter , closed length ( take spring off) spring length if buying new ,spring wire diameter will tell them poundage
and mounting hole dia and width
Just to confirm what others have said. I do not have a price for everything at the moment, however if you U2U over what you would like then I will get
the price for the configuration you request. I am sure that prices will be in line with what has been posted so far.
Thanks for all the requests so far.
I'm going to give it a miss this time, as theres loads of things I need before shocks, I just hope there's enough people that need shocks a bit further down the line as it's quite a nice saving off rrp!
quote:
Originally posted by dhutch
Looks good. I presume my current shocks are the 400 series but would have to look into that.
When I was buying last time, certainly for the rear, there was a lot of talk about getting them re-valved to suit the lighter car else you would ended up running them on the lightest setting all the time, which was one of the drivers for getting them via procomp rather than direct. Things might have moved on since then, but will these come valved to suit lighter cars?
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
The shocks are direct from protech. However I have recently seen the following thread that has some details on further adjustment to the operating range. if this is a deal breaker please let me know.
http://locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=194976
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
Just to confirm what others have said. I do not have a price for everything at the moment, however if you U2U over what you would like then I will get the price for the configuration you request. I am sure that prices will be in line with what has been posted so far.
Thanks for all the requests so far.
Daniel - thanks,
ceeb - I guess that means we need to make sure the shock orders are grouped with their springs in case that's true
James
quote:Would not be surprised if all the spring rates used by our cars fit into the 'light' category whatever valves options there are, but if there intended to be used as a set it would make sense to make that clear.
Originally posted by cloudy
ceeb - I guess that means we need to make sure the shock orders are grouped with their springs in case that's true.
quote:
Originally posted by dhutch
quote:Would not be surprised if all the spring rates used by our cars fit into the 'light' category whatever valves options there are, but if there intended to be used as a set it would make sense to make that clear.
Originally posted by cloudy
ceeb - I guess that means we need to make sure the shock orders are grouped with their springs in case that's true.
Daniel
quote:
Originally posted by Fcck2000
Hi,
Sorry I think I've spotted this a little late on. My Tiger Supercat is currently booked in at Northampton Motorsports Monday 8th Dec where it will be having Poly bushes, corner weighting and new suspension throughout.
Currently the aim was to have Avo dampers, how do they compare in regards to performance to the options in this groupbuy?
Paul
2 off
front shocks 400 series single valve
1.9 id 8" long spring 200lbs rate
valve to suit spring please
open 13.5"
closed including bump stop ( full travel )
11 1/4 "
1/2" swivel bearing both ends 32mm wide
2 off
rear shocks 400 series single valve
1.9 id 8" long spring 325lbs rate
valve to suit spring please
open 13"
closed including bump stop ( full travel )
9.5 "
1/2" swivel bearing both ends 32mm wide
quote:
Originally posted by Fcck2000
Hi,
Sorry I think I've spotted this a little late on. My Tiger Supercat is currently booked in at Northampton Motorsports Monday 8th Dec where it will be having Poly bushes, corner weighting and new suspension throughout.
Currently the aim was to have Avo dampers, how do they compare in regards to performance to the options in this groupbuy?
Ceeb wanted those orders in by 10pm tonight - go go go!
Numbers went in yesterday, however I only have 3 and a half cars worth so i'm not sure if they will go with the original prices.
Shame there were not more of us 
Thanks for organising and let us know what they say on the cost...
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
Numbers went in yesterday, however I only have 3 and a half cars worth so i'm not sure if they will go with the original prices.
Any news on whether quantities are sufficient?
James
Any developments on this please?
I U2Ud ceeb and he was away this week guess we'll hear next week
Ah, OK - thanks for that.
Hi guys, a quick update. Unfortunately I was away for work last week so did not get the opportunity to give protec a call. I tried calling them a couple of times today and it just rang out, I will try again tomorrow and hopefully have an answer for you all.
Do let us know, price depending i would be interested as well. Assuming its going to be in the new year now.
Rob
Ceeb, can you give an update on this?
James
I will be chasing this tomorrow so should have answers for all of us by the end of the day.
Totally forgotten about this, been busy with a new baby and all that comes with that! Gutted as that price looks great
Sounds good, ste - speak to ceeb you might still be able to get an order in?
Im very interested in the group buy but require MK1 MX5 full set. Can I get in on the order if the price is good?
I phoned and emailed today, but I have not yet had a response.
If any one else is interested and you are not on the list below please U2U me what you want ASAP. I will add them to the group buy and get you a
quote. Two more full sets of any protec product would be very helpful.
Ceebmoj
Bart
Cloudy
Rich J
Very interested! U2U'd request/specs.
Thanks
Anything we can do to help ceeb? Are you just waiting for them to come back on pricing?
James
If I'm not too late, I would be interested in a set ( with springs ) for my Seiw westfield
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Anything we can do to help ceeb? Are you just waiting for them to come back on pricing?
James
quote:
Originally posted by Mog72
If I'm not too late, I would be interested in a set ( with springs ) for my Seiw westfield
Any progress on this please?
Looks like this has fallen through, ceeb can you let us know either way please?
I'm sorry, but I can only wait till the end of the week then I'll have to buy elsewhere and pull out - the initial plan was to have them
before christmas...
James
Sorry for the delay. I understand everyone's frustration I want the parts for my build too.
First of all the bad news, The MX5 coilovers are currently undergoing testing and protech are not willing to send a set out until they have feed back.
Kevin asked that you give them a call in a month or so and seeing how they are getting on.
Good news, Protech are happy to honour the prices from earlier in the thread. Protech have just received a batch of the 400 series basses and should
have some 600 bases next week. If you have U2Ued me details of what you want please can you check that the order is still correct.
For the avoidance of doubt the details I have are as follows and it would be very helpful if you can send the information in the same format as I have
used:
ceebmoj
Shocks
4 * 14" open 10" closed 600 series Double Adjustable 2.25" 1/2" rose joints
Springs
2 * 375 lb/" 7" free length 2.5" id
2 * 350 lb/" 7" free length 2.5" id
Bart
2 * 400 series single valve open 13.5" closed including bump stop ( full travel ) 11 1/4 " 1/2" swivel bearing both ends 32mm wide
2 * 1.9 id 8" long spring 200lbs rate
2 * 400 series single valve open 13" closed including bump stop ( full travel ) 9.5" 1/2" swivel bearing both ends 32mm wide
2 * 1.9 id 8" long spring 325lbs rate
Cloudy
4x Protech Shocks 400 Series Single Adjustable Bearing 1.9" I.D - 11" open - 1/2" spherical
2x springs 6" length 1.9" Diameter 150lbs
2x springs 6" length 1.9" Diameter 125lbs
Rich J
2 * 600 Series Double Adjustable 2.25 id open 13" closed 9" closed length between mounting holes (to include bump stop)
4 * (2 each of top and bottom) bearing spacers 1 1/4" x 12mm
Cordell
2 * 400 sieries single adjustable 1/5" ID loop holes/bonded bushes
12" open length, 8.5" closed (that's the measurement without bumpstop)
SPRINGS (to match above dampers)
300 lbs
Once you have confirmed the orders I would like to start collecting cash.
U2U sent to all who have expressed an interest
I can confirm my order is correct - thanks ceeb, what's your plan around timings for us sending the money, and the order being placed
Hi as soon as I have all the funds the order will be placed. I would like it to be late this weak or Monday next week if people want to pay in to my account rathere than use pay pall. However it all depends on getting the funds from every one.
No problems, can you confirm the final price for each and your account details (paypal gift - or can bank transfer)
If you can give some timescales once everyone has confirmed -
ie: Payment must be received by Monday 26th Jan and ceeb will place the order on Tues 27th. Otherwise we might end up sending money with no ide when
the order will go in
Cheers, appreciate your hard work on this
James
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
Cordell
2 * 400 sieries single adjustable 1/5" ID loop holes/bonded bushes
12" open length, 8.5" closed (that's the measurement without bumpstop)
SPRINGS (to match above dampers)
300 lbs
Once you have confirmed the orders I would like to start collecting cash.
Hope that's understood? U2U sent
Thats a shame.
Yes I will give them a call in a month or so.
Thanks for all your effort.
Daft question!
When measuring my existing dampers, do I take the closed length to be the length it would be fully closed with no bump stop?
Sorry for being twp (Welsh for stupid!)
Ta
Wyn
if it helps this is how I specified mine
Front
2 off shocks series 400 single valve
1.9 id 200lbs spring rate
Valve to suit please
13” open length
10.5” fully closed including bump stop
Clarification = 2.5” full travel including compressed bump stop
½ spherical bearing each end to 32 mm wide
Rear
2 off shocks series 400 single valve
1.9 id 325 lbs spring rate
Valve to suit please
13.5” open length
9.5” fully closed including bump stop
Clarification = 4” full travel including compressed bump stop
½ spherical bearing each end to 32 mm wide
I set of adjustment spanners.
any idea where to pay to ceebmoj
[Edited on 21/1/15 by bart]
If this deal is still on can I please have -
2 * 600 Series Double Adjustable 2.25 id open 12.75" closed 8.75" closed length between mounting holes (to include bump stop)
4 * (2 each of top and bottom) bearing spacers 1 1/4" x 12mm
(Same as Rich J but a quarter of an inch shorter)
Let me know about payment please.
Thanks.
Ceeb, we seem to be going in circles on this one - I'd be concerned now sending over money in case it all stalls again. If you no longer have the
time to complete this group buy, would you hand it over to someone else?
James
Hi Ceeb
I'm going to have to pull out - sorry.
Thanks for your efforts
Regards
Wyn
Hi Ceeb, appreciate your efforts, but I can't wait any longer on these I'm afraid - I also need to pull out
James
Hi, sorry for the lack of updates (last minute work trip out of the country) and I appreciate that some have you have had to move on and purchase your bits. The requests for funds and shipping addresses will go out tomorrow evening to those who have not dropped out.
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Hi Ceeb, appreciate your efforts, but I can't wait any longer on these I'm afraid - I also need to pull out
James
I am going to have to admit defeat with the group buy we now have insufficient people to proceed. Sorry chaps.
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
I am going to have to admit defeat with the group buy we now have insufficient people to proceed. Sorry chaps.
Selective quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fcck2000
Maybe if people who still want them just go direct to Keith and explain how they opted for the group buy which fell through and ask for the group buy prices.
Out of interest.. Did you even manage to get a set for yourself?
I havnt got mine either, never got the message.....