Hi guys....looking for some advice regarding my Geo, specifically the rear toe.

as you can see from my picture i have a fair amount of rear toe in, specifically on the right side, is this within acceptable limits or should i perhaps shim the upright (non adjustable)
if so does anyone know what thickness shims would give, for example 1mm of adjustment, or is there an easy way to measure the toe without the fancy equipment?

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15" wheels, MK indy

much appreciated

Depends on where you apply the 1mm of adjustment. adding 1mm 5cm from the pivot point will make twice as much angular differences as 1mm 10cm from the pivot point.
Using distance to measure angles is a very hit or miss method, but you will be stuck with that, unless you can do adjustments on the fly with it on the equipment, or replicate the geometry CAD (or even on paper) and carefully work out where/what shims/or wishbone adjustments can be made and where.

[Edited on 28-2-17 by loggyboy]

Yeah i get you....
id probably get some kind of sheet metal plate type shim made up if it worth doing, my biggest concern is ending up with toe-out.

Do you think the toe in on the right side is a little excessive?

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Originally posted by flanders
Do you think the toe in on the right side is a little excessive?

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If those measurements were done at Kwik fit, it may be worth double checking at home with string.
I've heard of numerous occasions where these types of garages have been inaccurate.

I will be doing mine soon, so will be interested to see the best way to approach the shims.

[Edited on 28/2/17 by Banana]

Spot on.... that's exactly where it was done, they didn't fill me with confidence that's for sure but they're the only place i know of with a Hunter machine near me.

how do you check it with string?

If you want it checked and corrected get over to HQ Garage in Dalgety bay

A 1mm shim at the hub should give you about 0.16 deg toe change.

Anywhere down south that people would recommend for Geometry setups?

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Originally posted by hkp57
If you want it checked and corrected get over to HQ Garage in Dalgety bay

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It's the other way about, they stopped doing the dyno to concentrate on other work

Failing that take it down to Sitech Racing at Rosythe

http://www.sitechracing.co.uk/

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Originally posted by Toprivetguns
Anywhere down south that people would recommend for Geometry setups?

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Will give them a call - most places have never heard of a MK Indy.

Anyone has experience with Northampton motorsport?

Fishing line and axle stands are your friends, forget all that expensive stuff.

Work out the center line of the car, park on flat ground, drop the fishing line over the top of the car and chalk some lines front and back, 6 feet behind the car and a couple of feet in front, further away the more accurate within reason.

Measure the width of the wheels on the car, add an inch then devide use to draw a virtual box around the car on the ground with chalk, now tie the fishing line at wheel centre height to the axle stands and place on the front and rear corners of your box.

Now just measure from the line to the wheel rim to see how parallel they are, you want a smidge toe in so when braking hard the wheels get pulled straight, more compliant the bushes more toe in required.

Camber is easy with an iPad, just get a level app, park the car on perfectly flat ground, someone drives weight in the driving seat if you mostly go solo then measure on the wheel rim.