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Bike or car engine drive options
Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 08:57 AM

Hi all,
I am designing a single seater rear engine car based on a Terrapin plan with quite a few modifications. At present I am trying to decide between car engine and bike engine......
As I see it car engine is a piece of cake but low on power compared to a bike so getting to the point
If I go the bike route I know that most rear bike engine builders use a chain to a sprocketed diff (big bucks) where as front engine bike boys use an adapter to fit to a shaft (much cheaper), has anyone done this with a very short shaft for rear engine?
Anyone want to convince me that car or bike engine is the way to go

[Edited on 7/1/05 by Lotusmark2]


phelpsa - 7/1/05 at 10:22 AM

I think I recognise this post from somewhere?


jimgiblett - 7/1/05 at 10:25 AM

The chain and diff option isnt that expensive. Have a look at the Sylva R1ot which IIRC uses a modified fiesta diff.

link

The Fisher Menace uses a set up similar to what you describe has a prop adaptor on the output shaft of the gearbox conected to diff via 2 UJs joined together.

link

If its a single seater for track use only I would go for the chain option as you can keep the engine transversely (less oil surge issues) also significantly less power losses via a chain than a CWP diff.

On the road I am not convinced that a chain is ideal due to the maintenance requirements.

As for engine the light weight of a single seater may mean that you dont have to use the big expensive bike engines. I am sure a 600cc lump will move it along quite nicely and they are cheap as chips with 100bhp+

Cheers

Jim


Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 10:34 AM

Adam: fancy meeting you here

Jim: thanks for the links, I will have to give Sylva a call to see if they will sell the diff as a seperate item.
I must admit I am paranoid about chain drives (having been a biker for many years) they can be such a nightmare if you dont keep a very close eye on them

Oh and Jim, where are these cheep as chips engines

[Edited on 7/1/05 by Lotusmark2]


jimgiblett - 7/1/05 at 11:11 AM

The wonders of ebay I've seen 600 engines go for under £400

or for a bit more assurance colibriman has a good reputation here for supply of engines. On his site he's got a ZX6 or CBR1000 for £550.

link

A CBR1000 in a single seater will go very nicely I would think.


Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 11:13 AM

Cheers for that.
mmmmm CBR1000 single seater
beats the mini engine that the plans were designed for


phelpsa - 7/1/05 at 11:19 AM

That was exactly my suggestion 'elsewhere'

Adam


Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 11:21 AM

yep, everyone is telling me the same.
Cheers
Mark


JoelP - 7/1/05 at 06:56 PM

i should sell some of my engines... if the missus ever gets hold of the garage key im in BIG trouble


Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 07:03 PM

I quite fancy an engine that needs a bit of work, got anything VERY VERY cheap in that garage of yours?


JoelP - 7/1/05 at 07:43 PM

i think they all work! got a running fzr1000, a spare, plus two zx9r c's.

you in lancashire? ive been in bolton working all week.


Lotusmark2 - 7/1/05 at 07:48 PM

you have a u2u