Hello. Many years ago I bought a brake pipe flare which I was never happy with. Seems to give flares that were off centre. Always figured it was me.
Today I've been playing and playing and they're still off centre. Looking closely I can see it's the tool. The pointy bit isnt central
/ spins off centre so pushs the flare to one side.So....
Recommendations on a Brake flare tool. I don't want a 20 quid Sealy / eBay special. I want it to work reliably. I realise this means I may need
to pay a bit more.
Current got one of these so unless lots of people swear theirs is fine I don't want another.
https://www.frost.co.uk/brake-pipe-flaring-tool.html
[Edited on 27/6/18 by MikeR]
It’s a bit extravagant for one build but still,
eBay Item
I upgraded from and really cheap type that looks like a nutcracker to one of these...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool-TRIDENT-T413701-3-16-316/183233962008?epid=4017004564&hash=item2aa9986018:g:42MAAOSwdzVXigs5
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I've found it to be completely good enough for male and female flares. Good value for me.
David
I've watched a video of someone using one of those trident flares. Looked great and easy to use - I'm just worried it's too cheap to be
reliably good. I don't want to buy one then buy a third cause the second is also a bit rubbish.
How many flares have you done? Any issues at all?
Warren - I agree it's not cheap etc but I want something that works first time and is easy to use. I'm tempted to pay that money. (I've
been living down south to long)
[Edited on 27/6/18 by MikeR]
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Originally posted by MikeR
I've watched a video of someone using one of those trident flares. Looked great and easy to use - I'm just worried it's too cheap to be reliably good. I don't want to buy one then buy a third cause the second is also a bit rubbish.
How many flares have you done? Any issues at all?
any Sykes Pickavant one you like - even the ancient ones (as long as they have the dies you need of course)
my dad's still got one that must be 50+ years old
My main brake pipe tool is a good quality bench vice mounted one.
Earlier this year I needed to replace a section of the rear brake pipe on my Jeep ( in situ & on the car ).
I bought one of those Trident hand tools to do the job.
It managed to flare the steel pipe on the Jeep with ease, well impressed with the tool to say the least.
[Edited on 27/6/18 by bonzoronnie]
Well I have a Machine Mart one. Did a JC Midge, my Locost and most pipes on my Skoda Estelle trials car with it and few complaints.
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Originally posted by DavidW
I upgraded from and really cheap type that looks like a nutcracker to one of these...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool-TRIDENT-T413701-3-16-316/183233962008?epid=4017004564&hash=item2aa9986018:g:42MAAOSwdzVXigs5
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I've found it to be completely good enough for male and female flares. Good value for me.
David
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Originally posted by Slimy38
quote:
Originally posted by DavidW
I upgraded from and really cheap type that looks like a nutcracker to one of these...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool-TRIDENT-T413701-3-16-316/183233962008?epid=4017004564&hash=item2aa9986018:g:42MAAOSwdzVXigs5
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I've found it to be completely good enough for male and female flares. Good value for me.
David
Yep, I've got one of those too, they pop up on lots of forums as the 'best budget' tool. I've used it a couple of times and the results are spot on.
Just be aware the the Trident tool listed is for Imperial flares which are a different shape to Metric flares although that type of tool is available for Metric flares . I have two of the Franklin versions which work well but tend to use my vice mounted Sykes tool that I've had for at least 40 years.The Flaremaster tool is OK on Kunifer or copper but I've known at least 3 that have broken when used on steel pipes.
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Originally posted by MikeR
I've watched a video of someone using one of those trident flares. Looked great and easy to use - I'm just worried it's too cheap to be reliably good. I don't want to buy one then buy a third cause the second is also a bit rubbish.
How many flares have you done? Any issues at all?
Warren - I agree it's not cheap etc but I want something that works first time and is easy to use. I'm tempted to pay that money. (I've been living down south to long)
As above I must have done 20 or so - all spot on with the Trident type shown.
I bought a cheap one which was absolutely rubbish. I upgraded to one like David W' s link and it has been excellent. Simple to use and consistent results, all for a reasonable price. It's portable as well if you ever need to do a flare on a car as opposed to on a bench.
Thanks for the feedback folks really really appreciated.
I'm off to amazon to buy the franklin metric one ..... wish me luck.
(waiting for someone to scream - no you'll need the imperial one for ...... xyz)
Also - which is better / how do i know if i should be doing single or double flares?
[Edited on 28/6/18 by MikeR]
I used my Dad's set for my build - don't know that make, but it did the job fine.
ETA - IIRC I used copper brake pipe and not kunifer.
[Edited on 28/6/18 by nick205]
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Originally posted by MikeR
Also - which is better / how do i know if i should be doing single or double flares?
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Originally posted by nick205
I used my Dad's set for my build - don't know that make, but it did the job fine.
I inherited one like this
Which is fantastic and works every time. It's the best option, but also the most expensive and least flexible (impossible to use without a vice,
or under a car)
I bought one of these:
To do one flare under a car for an MOT and it's so good the other one hasnt been out of the cupboard since.
If I went to make a full set of new lines and spend all day using it, I'd still plump for the larger one.
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Hello. Many years ago I bought a brake pipe flare which I was never happy with. Seems to give flares that were off centre. Always figured it was me. Today I've been playing and playing and they're still off centre. Looking closely I can see it's the tool. The pointy bit isnt central / spins off centre so pushs the flare to one side.So....
Recommendations on a Brake flare tool. I don't want a 20 quid Sealy / eBay special. I want it to work reliably. I realise this means I may need to pay a bit more.
Current got one of these so unless lots of people swear theirs is fine I don't want another.
https://www.frost.co.uk/brake-pipe-flaring-tool.html
[Edited on 27/6/18 by MikeR]
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Hello. Many years ago I bought a brake pipe flare which I was never happy with. Seems to give flares that were off centre. Always figured it was me. Today I've been playing and playing and they're still off centre. Looking closely I can see it's the tool. The pointy bit isnt central / spins off centre so pushs the flare to one side.So....
Recommendations on a Brake flare tool. I don't want a 20 quid Sealy / eBay special. I want it to work reliably. I realise this means I may need to pay a bit more.
Current got one of these so unless lots of people swear theirs is fine I don't want another.
https://www.frost.co.uk/brake-pipe-flaring-tool.html
[Edited on 27/6/18 by MikeR]
no it was you...
I have several of the cheapest of cheap types and never had any bother. It's all down to just how much pipe is sticking out at the time, I have
the sizes written down on the lids and use a vernier to check before I flair it, if you get that right it all goes well. Bit of brake fluid in the
pipe also stops the die sticking
Imagine you've made a flare and are now looking down on the flare. It would look ok. Turn it 90 degrees so the flare is at the top and the pipe
is a straight line to the floor. You'd see the flare was off centre. One side would be near vertical the other side flared out a lot. Happened
every time. When I was looking to take it apart the other day to see if I could figure how to move the pointy bit more central I saw when I span it,
the point span off centre to the threaded but it was attached too.
Will try and get some pictures. New flare turned up today but I'm banned from the garage today .
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Thanks for the feedback folks really really appreciated.
I'm off to amazon to buy the franklin metric one ..... wish me luck.
(waiting for someone to scream - no you'll need the imperial one for ...... xyz)
Also - which is better / how do i know if i should be doing single or double flares?
[Edited on 28/6/18 by MikeR]