I'm thinking of getting some Alloy hubs made at the local CNC shop to 'Rally' spec and design, This should see a weight reduction of about 1Kg per hub !! would there be any demand by other cortina upright users for this type of product ???

Jason

By 'Rally' spec i mean type of Alloy, not size of bearings used, my hubs will use std bearings so will be a straight swap



Cost is heading for under £50 per Bare Hub


Costs are £47.50(Hub)Each + £11.00(Timken Bearing)Each fitted

P&P £10 per set for mainland UK

IF PAYING BY PAYPAL PLEASE ADD 3% TO COVER THEIR HANLING CHARGES


Ally Cortina Hub pic 01

[Edited on 15/2/06 by Deckman001]

It would be good if they where considerably less than here;

http://www.icondevs.co.uk/

Price would depend on demand !!!

Jason

but yes, they would be cheaper

[Edited on 8/3/05 by Deckman001]

I would be interested in a price, I have a spare set of uprights witth no hubs, so could be handy.
Paul.

I'd be interested if they use the standard bearings.
Pat...

They are being designed to use std bearings, so will be a straight swap

Jason

A Definate interest Jason!

Fozzie

So a pair for under a tonne?????
Pat...

It's looking that way at the moment,,, but i can't give a final cost until i know roughly how many people might want a set.



Jason

[Edited on 4/1/06 by Deckman001]

Jason, put me down for a set.

Many thanks Dan.

I'm interested

I thought the rally design ones used std bearings?

They do several types, the escort ones, (RD 199) of which they do three types, one std bearing std studs, one big bearing std studs and one big bearing, gp4 studs, and then they also do a cortina one for the hot rod racers, part no RD752.

I assumed the cortina one took std cortina bearings, although I know the escort Gp4 ones use a bigger bearing, as the old ford Gp4 escorts did.

They are all £58.50 + vat.

[Edited on 9/3/05 by NS Dev]

I hope to get the prices sorted by the end of the week,, But it WILL be less than £50 each or I ain't gunna get the cnc shop to make them !!!

Jason

This topic is really just to find out if there is a demand for the hubs, it will also be a limited manufacture run due to the cost of making the things, and I don't want to hold a stock of them either
I might look at the Sierra based hubs next though

Jason,

Sorry bit late, defo have a set off you for the ballpark prices mentioned above

Ned.

Any chance of getting them anodised?

IIRC, the Mk2 Escort hubs, although will fit, are slightly shorter in length.
Pat...

Speaking personally, I would doubt the demand for Sierra hubs, simply because the Sierra Hub is so small anyway and weigh so little compared to the upright itself.

Come to that, what is the weight saving with the cortina one? The cortina bare hub weighs very little, the brake caliper and disc are by far the heaviest parts of the assembly. I did weigh them but have now lost the paper that I wrote the weights on. You certainly want alloy calipers and alloy bells on your brake discs before you worry about the hubs, as thse are very small and pretty light anyway.

I would still like some, but I can't afford to at the mo as I need to find £300 for a pair of brake calipers and some discs!

Add my name to the list, they were on the plan, just down the list a bit!!

I just weighed the hub i have here and it's 5.5LB that's just over 2Kg, an Alloy one should be about half the weight , saving about 1Kg per hub.

Am seeing the cnc shop tomorrow and will tie them down to some costs ! Depending on the cost, I will get a set make for testing, then get the rest made.

Jason

Northy, yes but the cost to get one set done would be quite expensive i think, saying that i was shown some sample anodising in red, blue, black and green i think, so will enquire tomorrow

Jason

Costs to be finalised after the first one is made i'm getting a sample made to assess, then a set for testing, due to the sample being done 'free' they are doing it as and when they can so it will be made in the next couple of weeks

Seeing as Caterham sell them for £94 each and Westfield sell them for £187 a pair, I'm sure you will all like the price when it is finalised

Jason

When I spoke to Icondevs about the hubs they said that because of the expansion differences between ally and steel the bearings where a very tight fit , which meant that the bearings had to be cooled and the hubs warmed in an oven to fit them easily, this was to stop the bearings being loose when the hub warmed up in normal use, will your engineers take that into account?

That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to "walk" around in the hub.

So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.

Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!

I think the hammering/walking action is called brinnelling, but I stand to be corrected (both technically and with my spelling!)
More importantly I'm up for a pair!

that rings as bell with the westfield hubs - because of this the bearings are a very tight fit.

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Originally posted by Surrey Dave
When I spoke to Icondevs about the hubs they said that because of the expansion differences between ally and steel the bearings where a very tight fit , which meant that the bearings had to be cooled and the hubs warmed in an oven to fit them easily, this was to stop the bearings being loose when the hub warmed up in normal use, will your engineers take that into account?

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1/2 an hour per pound plus another 1/2 hour should see them about done . What was the final price on them?

I would like a pair if the price is right!

Is it still possilble to add one to your order list ?
and are you willing to send it to holland or could i pick it up at the kitcar show in stoneleight ?

greetz whpracer

It Will be under £50 per hub or I'm not bothering, no final costs until they make one, Dave, I know !!

Jason

If payment is received to cover postage, I'll send them anywhere
I have 3 definates, that leaves 22 sets for the ' I'll have em depending on cost' I'll give first refusal on a first come first served basis to those posting on here in order of posting.
I will make the 25 sets regardless and see how it goes, cost allowing that is !!

Jason

Perhaps a name list would be good to give Jason an idea of numbers? with a D for definite or an I for interested.

1. D Ned.
2. I Surrey Dave
3. I Paulf
4. I Avoneer
5. I Fozzie
6. D Scutter
7. I Northy
8. I NS Dev
9. I pk
10. I Kissy
11. I Whpracer
12. I MikeR

amend/update as necessary..!

Ned.

ps list not in any order, perhaps jason you can re-order them lol

[Edited on 11/3/05 by ned]

ok, add me to the interested price dependent.

Jason,

Just a thought, you could put the first tested/sample on ebay to gauge the interest there, sure you won't have problems shifting them on a buy it now basis or even as an open auction..

Ned.

The list is in this order

me D
GasGasGas D
Fozzie D
scutter D
Ned D
Surrey Dave I
Paulf I
avoneer I
Northy I
NsDev I
pk I
Kissy D
MikeR I
whpracer I
robby D

Jason

[Edited on 17/3/05 by Deckman001]

Ned Thanks, but I'm a locoster so will sell to people here first, if there are any left then they go to highest bidder

Jason

that's what i meant unless you want to make more sets up to sell at extorionate amounts of money to those silly ebayers remember i got £820 for a set of 45's

Ned.

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Originally posted by NS Dev
That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to "walk" around in the hub.

So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.

Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!

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It would be easy and cheap to get the bearing area of the hub shot peened to toughen it up if it's a worry.

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It would help as certain areas of the hub (the area onto which the bearing carrier goes) would be tougher as a result of the peaning. Therefore less prone to wear from the bearing carrier moving against it. The bearing would therefore not have to be fitted so tight in the first place- allowing potentially for home fitment.

Anyway, maybe it wouldn't help but an interesting idea nonetheless!

Cheers,
James

James,

The whole point is that the bearing should be a good fit and never move around in the first place afaik

Ned.

I know shot peaning is used to reduce stress raisers but to toughen alloy surfaces, that's a new one on me.

I'm pretty sure it's used in Formula 1 to surface toughen gears.

James

I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.

As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?

I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.

As I said, it probably wouldn't work. In fact maybe it's not even used on alloy. Formula 1 gears are of course a tough alloy steel in the first place. But they are peened to give the first 1or2mm of surface a tougher finish.

First likely looking link off Google:
http://www.avcorp.com/shot-peening.asp

All I was thinking was that getting a bearing shink fitted can't be that easy. Maybe peening would have toughened the alloy enough for you to be able to fit it yourself.

Probably not though so I'll shut up!

Cheers,
James

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Originally posted by clbarclay
I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.

As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?

I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.

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It's nothing to worry about, no need for peening etc, as long as the fit is tighter than that used on a steel housing, that's all, lets not get carried away. Other thing (expecially on a low mileage car like this) is to also loctite the outer races before pressing them in.

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Originally posted by James
All I was thinking was that getting a bearing shink fitted can't be that easy.

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quote:

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Originally posted by NS Dev

quote:

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Originally posted by clbarclay
I can tell you from experiance that a lose bearing shell rapidly wears away even cast iron. Not a pritty sight to sort out.

As for the shot peening, are you talking about 'work hardening'?

I know that work hardening increases strength (not 100% sure though, may be wrong if so please correct me) but not sure that it affects wear rates.

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not thinking of 2wd tractor front wheel bearings???? done a few of those in the past!!!

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Make me a 'D'

quote:

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Originally posted by gazza285
I know shot peaning is used to reduce stress raisers but to toughen alloy surfaces, that's a new one on me.

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Chaps, might be able to get a deal on the Bearings if i can get enough interest , can also get the cnc shop to fit them as well at a cost, havn't found that bit out yet though as i was after peoples thoughts on me getting the whole package first

Jason

Eek,lasses as welll,,, sorry

[Edited on 17/3/05 by Deckman001]

well, i've only just put new bearings in the iron hubs, but the last lot were a bitch to get out i think (it was so long ago now) how much extra would it be?

Ned.

Won't know till i get an idea of how many to order, if it's 50 bearings kits then it will be under £10 each plus fitting, which i don't have a cost for

Jason
eek, bearing price has gone up to £12.50

[Edited on 22/3/06 by Deckman001]

i think its the fitting cost that i'm most curious about. Darrens web site lists them at 15.50 each so any figure less than that is a bargin (unless you've already got your bearings like me!)

I'll get a set next time i pass the place and when the first set are ready, I'll get them to fit em and then get a definate cost for each hub


Jason

Jason,

when the first set is done can you get an approx weight? i know it makes little difference as they'll be shed loads lighter anyway but i saw a set the other day that were slotted between the wheel stud holes to lose even more weight. may have been the racedla ones..

Ned.

Yep, will do

Jason

definite for me too, if they're still there! cheers!

robby, you have been added

Jason

cheers man!

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Originally posted by NS Dev
It's nothing to worry about, no need for peening etc, as long as the fit is tighter than that used on a steel housing, that's all, ...

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quote:

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Originally posted by James

quote:

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Originally posted by NS Dev
That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to "walk" around in the hub.

So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.

Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!

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It would be easy and cheap to get the bearing area of the hub shot peened to toughen it up if it's a worry.

Cheers,
James

[Edited on 11/3/05 by James]

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Hi peeps, am looking at the Bearings options at the moment, looks like either 'cheap' ones or Timken, can the people on the list on page 4 u2u me their preference , I'm going to need a group buy for these to get a discount to pass on !!
I'm guessing the other option would be to get these Hubs plain, and let you all fit the bearings yourslves,,, your call
Cheers peeps

Jason

The test Hubs are being finnished today and then being fitted with Timken Bearings, I'm picking them up on tuesday ,ready for the testing, I'll post a price on tuesday after i speak to the miller

Jason

I would be more concerned about the prospect of losing bearing running clearance as the hubs warm up and the distance between the bearing cups increases as the alloy expands, reducing bearing clearance, which generates more heat and so on.

Wimmera

I would be too , if it wasn't for the fact that Cater*** sell them ,Westf**** sell them and so do lots of other companies, also the company that are making mine are ISO certified and also make components for the aero industry

Jason

What maximum temperature did you specify to the manufacturer.

Wimmera

I gave them the spec for Gp4 rally hubs which includes a heat treatment, they said it was a med quality material spec , aviation spec being the best, I'm keeping to the GP4 spec as these cars won't be used with the same loading forces as used by production cars (hopefully)so should last a long time in normal use
Only testing will prove this so it's off to the tester on tuesday Allthough i do have a ex F1 engineer interested in seeing them as well
Time wil tell i guess
ATB
Jason

For Ned's information, and other's i guess,, The weight of the bare hub is 1.08kg

Jason

pictures?!

Tomorrow, after i get to see them !!
apparently they do look smart !!

Jason

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Originally posted by cymtriks

quote:

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Originally posted by James

quote:

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Originally posted by NS Dev
That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to "walk" around in the hub.

So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.

Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!

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It would be easy and cheap to get the bearing area of the hub shot peened to toughen it up if it's a worry.

Cheers,
James

[Edited on 11/3/05 by James]

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Do not shot peen. This will increase the diameter of the bore which may make the problem worse.

Fit the outer rings with an appropriate fit. If you want to work it out for youself it's easy to do. Just take the difference between the expansion coefficient of the alluminium and of the steel bearing (this difference will be about 11 x 10e-6) and multiply it by the diameter of the bearing OD and by the temperature rise in the hub.

so that's
11 x 10e-6 times OD times temprise

add this to the interference fit on the bearing as fitted to the steel hub (measure a couple of steel hubs with an internal micrometer)

At this point you'll be asking how you get the temperature of the hub?

There are some pointers to this:-
Use thermal paint that changes colour according to the temperature reached.
Splash a little water on a hub that's just done a few miles. No hiss and it's under 100C.
Check for the thermal limits on the grease recommended for the original hub bearings.

So if the hub is at 70C then the rise is about 50C assuming that the bearings and hubs are fitted at 20C.

One important point. If the fit is too high you'll crush the bearing and it will fail early.

Why not investigate which bearings are used on an existing proven design of alloy hub such as an Elise or Westfield hub? I've heard the Elise uses MGF bits in the hubs.

NSdev, you mentioned brinelling and you live in Stroud. Do you work at Aerospace Bearings in Stonehouse by any chance? I used to work there!

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Ready with the readies!
I'll take 'em as they come, would prefer
1. Timken
2. Bare
3. Cheapies

Like I said, if you need some dosh to get rolling I'd be happy to stump up in advance.

What are the chances of anodising? I'm aware this may change dims.
Cheers.

The bearings are Very hard to fit without the use of a press, so i am going to advise that i supply the hubs with the bearings fitted, the test hubs do have Timken, so i will try again to get a price on the bulk buying of them so as to be able to pass on the cost saving.

The cost of each Hub will be £47.50 EACH + bearing, i will advise people of the cost of these as soon as i get a reply from the supplier
I hope this makes things a bit clearer
I will be placing the order in about a months time and delivery will be soon after that, I can also order as many extra as i need if your orders are placed to me before i give the final order to the supplier, No money will be required until i get a delivery date from the supplier, so you can all keep your money earning interest on your bank accounts

Pictures will follow as soon as i get my proper comp back to life, this laptop won't reduce the pic size sorry

ATB
Jason

[Edited on 16/3/06 by Deckman001]

Image deleted by owner


Looks snazzy

I've been trying to do that for twenty mins !! Bloomin laptop and it's user !! oops that's me !!
Thanks
Jason
ps more in my archive


[Edited on 10/5/05 by Deckman001]

To get it to work use the following link with the [ img ] code:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IM000721.JPG

Right click on the photo in the archive, properties, copy the url which should be that above

David

PS if i had the cash i would have a pair....but i dont.

Tried that loads of times but i'm useless on this laptop and couldn't get it to work, i hope the pics look clearer to everyone else, they look fuzzy and dull on this ere laptop thingy???
Jason
ps. thanks for posting the piccy though

[Edited on 10/5/05 by Deckman001]

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Originally posted by flak monkey
Image deleted by owner


Looks snazzy

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Tis a cortina hub. One flange is for the brake disc to bolt to, the other has the wheel studs in. Then fits over the stub axle on the upright

this help alan?



ps thats a standard iron hub obviously

Yep, I see it now...all one piece...I stand corrected....

tis a bugger if you ever have to change discs as you have to take the hub off the spindle first...

Ned,
I found it really easy to remove the hub from the stub shaft when I rebuilt my uprights. In fact the only tools I needed was a screwdriver to lever off the hub cap and a pair of pliers to remove the split pin. Everything else just came off by hand!.

I actually quite like the design of having the disc held on separately to the wheel as it helps to avoid the hassles of those damned countersunk screws which you get on most disc braked cars which are usually chewed to pieces, sheared off or missing! It also made me extremely meticulous about the flatness of the hub and disc surfaces when I bolted them together and I have perfectly true discs as a result (checked with a dial gauge).

Those are very nice alloy hubs by the way, if I hadn't already rebuilt my steel ones then I'd have a pair for sure!

Cheers,
Craig.

Pics of the Hubs have been updated in my photo archive which are alot clearer than my original ones .....Cheers Donut

Jason

looking nice jason

Cheers ned, i have a spare set other than those on test, I'll bring them to next meet for peeps to drool over


Oh yeah, nearly forgot,, got the prices sorted for the bearings,,,,,,,,,Timken bearings will be £11.00 per hub, fitted. This price also includes the rubber seal, but NO grease, you'll have to do the messy part yourselves

So that's £47.50 +£11.00 =£58.50 Each Hub with bearings fitted

Obviously I recommend to all that I get the bearings fitted in the workshop, as this will avoid any problems arising from bearings not being fitted correctly, if hubs are bought 'bare' then 'no responsibility will be taken by the manufacturer for damage caused by others installing their own bearings'

Jason

Just to let people know, testing is now taking place, with no concerns to report after first couple of drives, will keep you all updated via these posts as there are too many u2u's to send other wise

Jason

Same price as on Rally Design, though you have to add VAT to theirs and wheel bearings. In all a good buy, and if i had the cash i would have some

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4352

David

Yep, I think so as well, oh and at least Nobody else will have to pay the £45 for the bearings that I had to pay for the test car !! Timken ain't cheap, well not if you buy them yourselves anyway !!
Testing is still going on, no probs to report
Jason :-))

Just to report, The testing is still going very well, and I will have a display set with me when i go to the Brands hatch show this month

Jason

have you got the part numbers for the Timken bearings?

As I work for Timken I can see what I can do. I don't work for the bearing division but I can see if I can have a word in an appropriate ear!

Have sorted a 'price' for a bulk buy of them now so price has lowered from the £20 each side i originally paid
Thanks for offering though

Jason

I'll be leaving a Hub with Triton at the Exeter show on Sunday if anyone wants a looksee at the sample
Marks easier to find seeing as he'll be the one with a couple of seats

Jason

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[Edited on 18/11/05 by Deckman001]

When will they be for sale though?

As soon as the tester lets me
Am Very sorry for the delay in getting these hubs for sale, I didn't realise how extensive the testing process needed to be, Have now been told testing has endured over 400 miles , a few more trips out and final inspection to go
With this news I can go back to the cnc shop and ask for a quicker turnaround with with prodution

Jason

OK, no worries

Testing is complete and all ok, so I will be placing an order in the cnc shop on Monday.
Any more takers ?
Jason

Jason,
Can you pls let me know the spec numbers of the bearings and the distance apart when they're fitted? I need to check that the spindles I have will be compatible..... I have heard there are some differences between your Cortina's and the ones we got here in Oz....

Cheers,

Tim

Jason, I'll take a set, what's the best method of payment?

ATB Dan.

Would you be willing to post a pair w/o bearings or lug bolt holes to the US?

Cory
Atlanta

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Originally posted by Piledhigher
Would you be willing to post a pair w/o bearings or lug bolt holes to the US?

Cory
Atlanta

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Originally posted by timmy
Jason,
Can you pls let me know the spec numbers of the bearings and the distance apart when they're fitted? I need to check that the spindles I have will be compatible..... I have heard there are some differences between your Cortina's and the ones we got here in Oz....

Cheers,

Tim

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Originally posted by scutter
Jason, I'll take a set, what's the best method of payment?

ATB Dan.

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Lastly (for this log-on period) I can now offer the hubs anodised, at £2 extra each hub

Jason

Jason, would you try that U2U again it didn't come thru?

Time for sleep FAR to much beer

Dan.

Jason,
What colours can you get them anodised in?....Any chance mine can come back for a colour change?

Cheers
Mark

The anodising is done and priced in a 'batch' with these hubs falling into the min order quantity, so many different colours isn't an option, unless peeps want to pay loads more, I'll find out what they say
Jason

Postage now sorted at £10 per set to mainland UK
Hope this helps
Jason

Sorted, Money now sent fella.

Cheers Dan.

Count me in too. Running out of places to loose weight without it costing a packet.

Cheers Dan, lightning, you have u2u

Jason

Hi peeps, would the people who have sent cheques, contact me through u2u so I can keep a check on them from date sent
No problems, I just want to keep it that way
Thanks
Jason

Just thought I'd add, have been recomended a better Anodisers with full ISO certifacation, sadly though this extra quality comes at a price, double as it happens, but thats my problem not yours, the cost to you all will stay the same for the 1st 25 sets anyway

[Edited on 17/2/06 by Deckman001]

Hey chaps,
I'm trying to organise a set of discs to bolt up to these. Can anyone tell me what the PCD of the disc rotor mounting holes is?
I have a DWG of the disc that should probably fit; I was wondering whether someone could tell me if it's the same as the ones you're using over there:
Disc dia 247mm
Disc thk 12mm
Total height inc mounting flange 26.5mm

Cheers,

Tim

Hi all,
Just to give people an update on the hubs, this is what some of them looked like this afternoon just before I took them to the Anodisers



Lots of hubs

Jason

Hi again, just to let people know, bearings are now fitted, so expect a parcel soon
Still some sets avaliable, at advertised cost, also some Timken bearings

Jason

Thanks a bunch Deckerman some ecellent hubs received today nicely bubble wrapped up. All i need to do now is buy some uprights and discs and calipers and brake pads to have my new light weight front end.

Thanks again

Thanks a bunch Deckerman some ecellent hubs received today nicely bubble wrapped up. All i need to do now is buy some uprights and discs and calipers and brake pads to have my new light weight front end.

Thanks again

Timmy, expect a package in about ten days

Jason

Got mine yesterday!!!

Mine are slightly special in that the wheel mounting holes are on a 114.3mm PCD, but I fitted one last night and it fitted perfectly. There was one slight glitch in that the inboard bearing that Jason supplies doesn't suit the Oz-delivered Cortinas. No problem though, because the standard Corty bearing fitted perfectly into the bearing cone pressed into the hub.

Thanks again, Jason.

Cheers,

Tim

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Originally posted by Piledhigher
Would you be willing to post a pair w/o bearings or lug bolt holes to the US?

Cory
Atlanta

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Jason

Just wanted to drop you a note to say the hubs have arrived. I am very pleased with the quality. Thank you for the special (no lug holes) set you made up for me. Another pleased customer.

Cory

cheers jason, chuffed wi the hubs, shame to put them on the car! ( i'm more of a user than a polisher...) thanks again, robby

No worries Glad you ALL like them

Just to let people know, I've only 6 sets left in this batch, 3 sets ready for delivery and 3 sets without bearings fitted yet, can be fitted quite quickly though

Anyone who has had a quote at the earlier price of £121 + delivery, can still get them at that price while the stocks last, All new orders and quotes are at the web site prices for this batch.

Due to Ally prices going up again this will be the last batch for a while.

Many Thanks

Jason

Jon, hubs will be on there way to you in the morning

Jason

Only 4 Sets left !!

[Edited on 5/12/06 by Deckman001]

ta, read the u2u, you made me more work...........

Jon, hubs went today, the rest of you, I've only TWO std sets left now

I do also have a set that were made for Toyota stud pattern - 4x114.3, If anyone is interested in these, send me a u2u and I'll work out a 'clearance' price
Cheers
Jason

Michal, you set will be sent Saturday
Fred, yours are being delivered Saturday as well
David, you got yours on Thursday,Invoice is in cyberspace, tracking you down !!

Jason

Package arrived this morning, very happy with the quality of the hubs.

Top job J, Thnx.

Cheers Jason, just had a call to say my hubs have been delivered, by hand no less.



Thanks

Fred W B

[Edited on 9/12/06 by Fred W B]

Yep thanks Jason, top stuff, the team is very happy!

James, your set was sent out Wednesday

Jason

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Originally posted by Deckman001
James, your set was sent out Wednesday

Jason

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Michal, I'm glad the Polish postal service found you eventually

Jason

Sorry folks, I can't take any more sales at the moment as I have no stock left,I'll be back in touch when the next stock arrive.
Many Thanks for the continuing orders

Jason