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Girling Contacts????
Bob da builder - 6/4/02 at 03:06 PM

i have got a random girling master cyliner and i want to know what its off, i can not get hold of girling for love nor money...Dose any one know web site/phone No for them


Cheers rob

theconrodkid - 6/4/02 at 03:39 PM

I think i have a Girling book at work,gis the part no and i will try to match it up,has it got a plastic band with some numbers on it loose round the barrel? need that number as well

theconrodkid - 6/4/02 at 04:20 PM

Bob look under lucas girling

Bob da builder - 8/4/02 at 07:26 AM

Hi M8y

The cylinder its self has stamped on it: 646767810196 and the plastic tag: 68993 05 50/50 12GK.

It is a twin system with a single resivoir. do you know which out let is for the front or the read, i presume that the front out let is for the front and the rear for the rear. dose it say what the split is Eg 60/40 front to rear??? i guess that the 50/50 on the tag means a 50/50 split?????


Cheers M8y

Rob

theconrodkid - 8/4/02 at 07:38 PM

The outlets nearest the pedal are fronts,i will check it out tommorow and mail you back
its probaly easier to use the master that goes with the rest of the braking system cos bores and cylinder/calliper sizes are related.

Bob da builder - 9/4/02 at 07:59 AM

cheers m8y

theconrodkid - 9/4/02 at 03:59 PM

Sorry Bob forgot to take numbers in with me definatley tommorow

Bob da builder - 10/4/02 at 07:36 AM

No worries M8y

Rob.

Dick Axtell - 10/4/02 at 11:43 AM

Hey Guys -

I was a Girling employee, working on suspension development, then on brake actuation design. Girling exists merely as a trade name now, used mainly in India. LucasGirling, Lucas Automotive and Lucas Industries are now all defunct; firstly, there was the so-called merger with a US outfit called Varity, then the takeover by another US giant, TRW.

Normally, for older braking equipment, I would suggest contacting TRW Automotive Aftermarket, for info. However, since they have been through several bouts of re-structuring, right-sizing and staff re-deployment (out the door!!), God knows who is left, and who knows anything remotely techie.

Checking out the tag # you quoted, identifies this unit as Ø19.0 TVCV (dual system, Tipping Valve/Centre Valve). This is similar to the Escort Mk2 mcyl. The figures cast into to the mcyl body are the casting part #. Can find no info regarding original vehicle application.

Hope this helps.
Dick Axtell

Bob da builder - 10/4/02 at 01:18 PM

Spot on M8y.
dont suppose you know which outlet is for the front and the rear??

theconrodkid - 10/4/02 at 05:07 PM

Bob checked it out today its off something agricultral according to my suppliers,so best binned and get a sierra one

Bob da builder - 11/4/02 at 07:28 AM

Cheers M8

Dick Axtell - 15/4/02 at 12:55 PM

quote:
Bob checked it out today its off something agricultral according to my suppliers


Oh S**t!! If this mcyl is truly orff sunnink agricultural, then it was designed for use with mineral fluids (e.g. ATF). The seals would therefore not be compatible with the more usual polyglycol DOT 3 or 4 brake fluids.

BTW - Do remember that Sierra mcyls (which are Ø22.2mm) were designed for use with a booster, and not for non-boosted applications.

Sierra mcyls have no internal back-stop for the pistons; those mcyls fitted with input rod & clevis (as per W**f**lds) have such an internal piston back-stop. This controls the level of travel to cut-off. Getting this right with the Sierra mcyl could be very tricky, and potentially dangerous (especially if your brakes don't release rapidly!!).

Happy fettling
Dick