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Quick Rack - Bugatti style or not?
Ivan - 26/5/07 at 05:29 PM

Hi - browsing LocostUSA forum I saw this and thought it's a really simple way to achieve a quick rack - wonder what the authorities would think of it , although in all fairness if it's good enough for Bugatti it should be good enough for them - although I think I would go for a double belt

Bugatti Steering
Bugatti Steering


On second thoughts it might have nothing to do with steering but something to do with timing and/or rev counter as looking carefully appears to be connected to back of head, but idea could still work although would maybe spoil steering feel.


rav - 26/5/07 at 06:17 PM

I was thinking making a 'quickener' using a pair of sprockets and a chain, or two gears in a simple box, (no one makes a quick rack for a cinquecento AFAIK) until I discovered that they can be bought off the shelf from the states:

http://www.midwestmotorsportsinc.com/order_sub.php?id=105

The Coleman Pro-lite seems to be the smallest & lightest, availabke in 1.5:1 or 2:1 ratios. they all seem to use 3/4" GM splines.

It should be pretty straighforward, the quickener will fit into the (modified) intermiediate steering shaft with the aid of a couple of splined sleeves, which can also be bought from stock car suppliers in the states for a few dollars.

Job done! Rescued attachment 22370.jpeg
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Wadders - 26/5/07 at 06:19 PM

That looks like a magneto, hiding under the scuttle, not sure what the pulley is driving though, as you say maybe its the rev counter?


Originally posted by Ivan
Hi - browsing LocostUSA forum I saw this and thought it's a really simple way to achieve a quick rack - wonder what the authorities would think of it , although in all fairness if it's good enough for Bugatti it should be good enough for them - although I think I would go for a double belt

Bugatti Steering
Bugatti Steering


On second thoughts it might have nothing to do with steering but something to do with timing and/or rev counter as looking carefully appears to be connected to back of head, but idea could still work although would maybe spoil steering feel.



Mark Allanson - 26/5/07 at 06:20 PM

The advance retard is a lever on the steering wheel and the dizzy in in the middle od the dash (anyone KNOW why, I'm guessing cooler/drier). Just an ingenious way of linking the two.


rusty nuts - 26/5/07 at 06:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
The advance retard is a lever on the steering wheel and the dizzy in in the middle od the dash (anyone KNOW why, I'm guessing cooler/drier). Just an ingenious way of linking the two.



Typical Italian electrics!!!


NS Dev - 27/5/07 at 01:19 PM

A lot of grasstrack racers used to use the timing gears and chain from a mini, mounted on the column and suiatable brackets, as a steering quickener, timing drives being ideal at 2:1 ratio


Ivan - 27/5/07 at 02:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
A lot of grasstrack racers used to use the timing gears and chain from a mini, mounted on the column and suiatable brackets, as a steering quickener, timing drives being ideal at 2:1 ratio


Just out of interest - how does it affect things like steering feel and kick-back.


NS Dev - 28/5/07 at 10:14 AM

I've never run that setup myself, so can't really comment.

Kickback should be no worse than a correspondingly fast rack (e.g. the one I use now which is 0.8 turns lock to lock with a lot of lock! ) and doesn't kick back too badly apart from when you lock wheels with people.

Feel wise I would imagine there will be a bit of extra play, and a bit of notchiness, but no idea really!