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Wishbones - The big ? To buy or to make?
flyingkiwi - 13/8/03 at 06:39 PM

Right,

I'm trying to work out what would be better, to buy the wishbones and all the rods, or to make them? I've been offered £35 for all the steel to make them, but after reading some of the threads on here about geometry and stuff () I'm a bit worried about the books dimensions.

Would I be better off just buying them from the likes of Luego or making them? minding the fact that I cannot weld and would have to pay someone to do it for me!

Cheers
Chris


JoelP - 13/8/03 at 06:48 PM

If you cant weld, i would recommend buying them

However, as welding is such fun, i would also recommend learning that as well!

Bear in mind one hard bit is tapping a thread in the upper wishbone. (Watch someone recommend i learn how to do that now!)

Geometry isn't terribly hard if you make good jigs to hold all the pieces in place. A full set of bones and rods could be several hundred £ i think?

I take it ur buying a chassis as well?


andyps - 13/8/03 at 06:49 PM

For what it is worth, my suggestion would be to buy them if you can't weld yourself - by the time you buy the steel and pay someone who has to make jigs, cut the steel, weld it together etc. you would probably be just as well off buying them from someone who makes them regularly.

Only other factor to take into account is whether you want standard wishbones or need something slightly different.


flyingkiwi - 13/8/03 at 06:53 PM

I've managed to get hold of a chassis with all the brackets welded on it, which is a bonus.

Having spent most of the day surfing for prices the cheapest I've seen are the Stuart Taylor ones, but still running into £150. I would love to learn to weld but my job has a nasty habit of sending me on little trips abroad.

I've made up the top wishbone jig according to the book and it looks right (which usually means it is) but its the bottom wishbones that have me a bit worried, with the plate for the ball joint.


JoelP - 13/8/03 at 06:59 PM

I bought the upper front wishbones, which was easy enough! I'm making the bottom ones soon, not following the book so its wait and see if it will work! The plate just welds onto the bones (easy), has holes drilled in it (easy), and is nicely lined up (not so easy). I think im gonna weld it all up and then drill the holes, though that may be daft...

trailing rods should be simple if you can make them all identical length. Lots of file work! I'm using IRS so im saved (using sierra subframe and arms!)


flyingkiwi - 13/8/03 at 07:06 PM

hmmmmm, might have a go making them then, there's a bloke at work that will weld some bits for me for a tenner, but might look at buying the lower wishbones as I don't have any steel plate.

Hopefully when I've finished them will be able to pull the chassis out of the garage!


Mark Allanson - 13/8/03 at 09:36 PM

You can buy all you rear trailing arms directly from your local scrappy, The are 2 adjustable ones and 2 fixed ones attached to the rear of every Nissan Bluebird, you can make an adjustable panhard rod by extending another one. They have 14mm bolt holes which is also worth considering.


Ian Pearson - 13/8/03 at 09:57 PM

I made my wishbones as per book. It took me ages to make them. Really chuffed with the result, only to find that the top wishbone dimensions were wrong. There is a thread somewhere that explains the book error. Chucked them in the "SCRAP BOX" and ordered some from MK.


Stu16v - 13/8/03 at 10:07 PM

quote:

I've managed to get hold of a chassis with all the brackets welded on it, which is a bonus.



That is assuming that the wishbones you are considering buying have the bushes in the same place, and with the correct sized holes as your chassis brackets of course....


Hornet - 14/8/03 at 07:15 AM

Found this a few months back when i made mine, Can't remember where, but big thanks to whoever it was.



flyingkiwi - 14/8/03 at 09:15 AM

Thats a very good point about the chassis brackets, will have to find out.

Will also keep an eye out for a nissan bluebird!

Cheers for all the thoughts guys

Chris


Steve Hnz - 14/8/03 at 02:02 PM

Which model of bluebird would that be exactly. Front or rear drive?


Mark Allanson - 14/8/03 at 08:14 PM

Front wheel drive (was there a rear wheel drive?)


Noodle - 14/8/03 at 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Front wheel drive (was there a rear wheel drive?)

Bluebird's were RWD until the Joy Police replaced them with FWD in 1984-ish.

Neil.