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Author: Subject: Rose Jointed suspension
Alan B

posted on 22/1/04 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by stephen_gusterson.....rose joints in side loaded mode are rated approx 15% of their full rating.......side loading will occor on front wishbones during braking.....you dont want them popping out the shank......


Which is why they are often used at 90 degrees to the obvious way..I.E. with the hole axis vertical.....yes it reduces the available angular travel (no good on short wishbones), but does elimate the "pop out" forces......

Just more food for thought..

Don't want things too easy do we?..

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Alan B

posted on 22/1/04 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
Like this on the WCM Ultralite...



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stephen_gusterson

posted on 22/1/04 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
yep. knew that. too late before I knew tho!

Also, as you say, most bearing have 13 degree of movement, and i dont think that would be enough

atb

steve






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Alan B

posted on 22/1/04 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
Hey Steve, I didn't know myself until fairly recently....like you say the angular limits are a bit restrictive, unless you go for the high angle rod ends...and they'll be really cheap I'm sure..
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dblissett

posted on 22/1/04 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
rod ends

this rod end rating has got me checking the rating of my skf rod ends there are some that can take 15 deg and i have found some in 2rs ie ruber sheilds over the ball this one has 72kn ratting for a m14 male rod end
mine are only rated at 32kn
i get the rod ends through work but these 72kn 2rs are specials and i am waiting for the price from germany
anyone know what rating we should be looking for
deep breath for the price tomorow!

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Digger Barnes

posted on 23/1/04 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Jon Ison
gis a shout if i "can" be of any help, racin class A this season.


Cheers Jon I am sure that I will give you a shout.

What a cool site loads of people willing to help out.

It is already starting to feel as though I am becoming part of the locost fraternity.

I only hope that I can start putting in what I am getting out of this site sooner or later.

What a sh1t week though trying to get a few hours in on the car and I have been called out 3 F****** times in the middle of the night to sort out some reactors on site. I am the process engineer I should not have to be doing this aarrrrhhhhhh.

Oh well I'll think of the big wads of cash and have a think about what I could possibley spend it on mmm maybe the money black hole in the garage if I ever get a chance to get in there.

Ok rant over (just about to go home).

P.S. I had not thought about mounting the rose joints on the side, something I will have to take a closer look at me thinks.

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Rorty

posted on 26/1/04 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
The highest angularity of all rod ends is usually the 5/8" or 16mm across just about every manufacturers range.
I usually end up using them, not for their rating, but because of the angles they run at.
I also modify rodends to give 48 degree total angularity which means I can run them vertically, have 16" of suspension travel and still have fantastic oposite-lock-ability-ish-type-thingy.
You'll probably find that a cheap 5/8" mild steel PTFE lined rod end is rated higher than the expensive 3/8" ones you were going to buy! Granted though, they're probably a few grams heavier!





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