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smart51

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
strange tyre wear - what does it mean?

I have toyo T1-S tyres on my car, which have a tread pattern where the grooves run more or less round the tyre. Each of the tread blocks on the rears has worn more on the outside edge than the inside. Not only are the blocks lower on the outside, but the outside edge is worn round but the inside edge is quite sharp. What causes this type of wear pattern?
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gazza285

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Going round corners fast.





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like you need a bit of negative camber on the rear (or take away the positive camber). Does a picture show the wear pattern up??






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Guinness

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Not enough drifting. Try more wheelspin. Should even up the wear!

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blakep82

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
wouldn't underinflated tyres do that too?





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rusty nuts

posted on 19/3/09 at 08:54 PM Reply With Quote
Too much toe in will cause tyres to wear on the outside edges, Too much toe out will cause wear on the inner edge. Over inflation will cause the tyre to wear in the middle , under inflation will cause both edges to wear. As already said hard cornering will cause the outer edges to wear as will to much positive camber.
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smart51

posted on 19/3/09 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
I'm pretty sure that there's the correct amount of negative camber and I do go round corners pretty hard, especially on the track.

What would the handling effect of too much rear toe in be?

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adithorp

posted on 19/3/09 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like too much positive/not enough neg camber. The rounded description points to that as well.
It could be too much toe-in but you'd get a shark tooth effect to the tread block edges if it was that. Can you feel steps if you run your hand over the worn tread.

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Daddylonglegs

posted on 19/3/09 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
wouldn't underinflated tyres do that too?


Nope, under inflation will wear both outside edges excessively.



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austin man

posted on 19/3/09 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
Ultimately what it means is your wasting your money, get the camber looked at while you still have tread to play with.





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JAG

posted on 20/3/09 at 09:03 AM Reply With Quote
I think you've got some rear toe-in.

It's quite normal to design in a bit of rear toe-in for additional straight line stability and grip. I'd ring MNR and have a chat - it may be normal on their cars and he may be able to help adjust it out if you don't want it.





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britishtrident

posted on 20/3/09 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
More wear is normal on the outside shoulder -- however from you description it sounds like things could be improved.

(1) check the toe-in
(2) more negative or change the rear geometry

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