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Author: Subject: sierra long hub studs and long chrome nuts
cd.thomson

posted on 2/12/09 at 03:01 PM Reply With Quote
sierra long hub studs and long chrome nuts

Hi guys,

anyone have suppliers for these?

[Edited on 2/12/09 by cd.thomson]





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Mr Whippy

posted on 2/12/09 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
I got my bolts from autosave and hammered out the studs from cars at the scrappy (who never charged me for them )






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Breaker

posted on 2/12/09 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
Hi guys,

anyone have suppliers for these?

[Edited on 2/12/09 by cd.thomson]


Why do you need longer studs? Are you installing spacers or should you always have longer studs when using aluminium wheels ?

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mcerd1

posted on 2/12/09 at 03:44 PM Reply With Quote
dax, demon tweaks etc. sell long studs

but I got mine from rally design as they were fairly cheap and I was getting some other stuff from them at the same time

quote:
Originally posted by Breaker
...or should you always have longer studs when using aluminium wheels ?


normally they need to be longer than the ones for steel wheels - its the number of threads that are properly 'engaged' in the nuts (and alloy wheels tend to be thicker)





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Paul (Notts)

posted on 2/12/09 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
https://www.burtonpower.com/product_main.aspx?dets_product.aspx?PSet=97&sTxt=whell%20studs

got mine from burton power

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 2/12/09 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
I got mine from a granada in the scrappy, that was for tina hubs though,





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Breaker

posted on 2/12/09 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
dax, demon tweaks etc. sell long studs

but I got mine from rally design as they were fairly cheap and I was getting some other stuff from them at the same time

quote:
Originally posted by Breaker
...or should you always have longer studs when using aluminium wheels ?


normally they need to be longer than the ones for steel wheels - its the number of threads that are properly 'engaged' in the nuts (and alloy wheels tend to be thicker)


Ok, good to know ! I just disassembled the brake disc of my sierra front hub and indeed they look short. Do the rear hubs need the same studs as the front ? (I don't have the rear hubs with discs yet). What size and length should I look for ?

[Edited on 2/12/09 by Breaker]

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mcerd1

posted on 2/12/09 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Breaker
What size and length should I look for ?


what wheels have you got ? are you using spacers ?.........

you can measure them to find out what you need (I'll post a sketch of how measured mine later - it'd take to long to type it)





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Breaker

posted on 2/12/09 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by Breaker
What size and length should I look for ?


what wheels have you got ? are you using spacers ?.........



I'll use aluminum wheels but don't have a specific type in mind yet, so I guess the length is a problem for the future...

Are the studs easy to remove when they are still on the wheel hub assembly ?

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cd.thomson

posted on 3/12/09 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
Hi, thanks for everyones responses.

I don't have spacers on mine but theyre ally and I'm having trouble getting the nut far enough on the stud as they seem thicker.





Craig

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mcerd1

posted on 3/12/09 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
Craig,

The standard ford studs for steel wheels are very short
the ones got cars with alloys are a bit longer, but still not long enough for my wheels

did you get nusts with your wheels ?
(what kind of wheels have you got anyway?)


I had to get the longest ones that RD sell (63mm) for the back with my spacers
but for the front there 47mm ones where barely long enough for my wheels - so I got some more 63mm ones an cut a little off them on the lathe

there are a few ways to work out how long a stud you need:
one way is just to count the number of turns that you can get your nuts on, each complete turn is 1.5mm that way toy can work out how much more you need
or you can just measure the nuts in the wheel and work it out that way

I can't remember exactly how much thread is supposed to be in the nut, but if it were a normal bolt it would be 2 threads projecting through the nut
obviously that doesn't work on domed nuts - but thats roughly the bolt dia. + 2*1.5 = 15mm (someone please check this)

-Robert





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cd.thomson

posted on 3/12/09 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
Hi Robert,

hugely helpful as always.

I did get nuts but they are open, rusty things - so I was looking at buying some domed ones like these:

http://rallynuts.com/motorsport/Wheel%5FNuts%5F1838/Wheel_Nuts_Internal_Hex_Round_Chrome_3238.asp

I will get 16 of the 63mm replacement studs.

I have some TSW 17" 5 spoke alloys with different offsets front and rear (ford and peugeot off the top of my head). I didn't buy them, they came with my partbuilt.







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mcerd1

posted on 3/12/09 at 12:10 PM Reply With Quote
those look like semi-theft proof nuts

not sure i'd trust them myself (or any theft proof nuts) I've had too many problems in the past with stuck wheel nuts on other peoples tin-tops - I always use copper grease on my own ones

this is a very rough sketch of how I measured the stud length:

I just held a nut in place with 1 finger and measured it with the depth gauge on the calipers
then subtract a bit for some clearance inside the nut (say 2-3mm) and add on the thickness of the disc and hub - and that should give you the maximum lenght for your studs





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