James
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 02:14 PM |
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Sierra Rear Callipers- meant to move?
Sierra rear callipers
As far as I can tell, to a certain extent, the whole of the calliper body is meant to move as you apply the brakes.
Therefore doing what's been done here:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=Img_0039sm.jpg
will mean the copper pipe from the calliper to the flexi hose will break as it's flexing.
This is someone else's picture- not my car! 
Or have I missed something?
Cheers,
James
[Edited on 7/5/04 by James]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 02:19 PM |
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Don't know about Sierras but Rovers certainly do use a short length of flex hose to allow for caliper movement --- you might get away with it
with a longish steel brake pipe but not with copper -- like aluminium alloys copper has well defined yeild point and a finite fatigue life.
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ned
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 02:37 PM |
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James,
Someone mentioned this as a reply ot me in a previous thread i believe, I'll try and find it for you..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Mix
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 02:41 PM |
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James
You are correct, the Sierra calliper shown is 'floating', ie it compensates for wear by moving in it's mount. With use there will be
a progressive movement of the calliper towards the inside of the car as the pads wear. A rigid brake pipe as shown will resist this movement tending
to keep the inner pad in contact with the disc when the brakes are released.
IMO this pipe should be a flexi, (it will be on my build).
Mick
[Edited on 8/5/04 by Mix]
[Edited on 8/5/04 by Mix]
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 02:51 PM |
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the granada (same as sierra) has two flexies a side. One from the caliper to the fixed pipe on the swing arm, and another from arm to body.
atb
steve
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James
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 03:35 PM |
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The reason I asked was that if what's in the picture is correct (which I thought it wasn't) then it'd be quite helpful for what
I'm trying to achieve.
(Which is a bodge as I bought the wrong flexi pipes!) 
What I've done is a copper pipe from the caliper to a bracket at the top of the calliper and the flexi leading from this. Which is a relief as
it means I done something right for once!
Cheers,
James
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ned
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 03:38 PM |
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James,
I can pop over tonight and check it if you like, or will you be kick boxing?
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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blueshift
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 03:43 PM |
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There's no way the pipe in that picture should be solid. Bet they don't pass SVA.
The caliper moves in and out which would fatigue the pipe if nothing else (right? any engineers care to comment?), and you need a flexi on there for
replacing the brake pads (when you undo one guide bolt and swing the caliper up, or undo both and take it off) without having to disconnect and then
bleed the brakes.
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James
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 03:43 PM |
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Nah, no Savate tonight- I leave being beaten up to school night and Sundays!
So, if you don't mind that'd be cool to see you.
Bollocks, as it's the brakes (which I guess is worth getting right!) maybe I'll put in a quick order to Raldes!
Cheers,
James
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Mave
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 03:53 PM |
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Hmm, hadn't thought of that. I was planning on mounting it the same way, especialy since my brake-lines, supplied by MK have two short brake
pipes for this purpose...... Maybe I should mount the brakepipes to the caliper. (but then, why should I use them anyway?)
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James
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| posted on 7/5/04 at 04:24 PM |
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Doing it this way (to the top of the calliper atleast) does mean you don't have to have your flexi line running all the way round to the bottom
of the calliper.
This is less of an issue with the Indy than on my car because with the Indy the calliper is at 10 or 11 o'clock whilst in mine it's at 9
o'clock and the angle is quite awkward.
HTH,
James
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