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rich201283

posted on 16/1/11 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
Brake master cylinder problem?

I tried to bleed the brakes today with an eazybleed kit but it appears that i am getting low pressure from the master cylinder, No matter how much i bleed them i can get them to work

The cylinder is off a non servo fiesta, I used the 2 front connections for the fronts and 1 of the back connections for the rear and blocked the other.

Ive also got a remote resiviour of a punto connected for the fluid.

Can anyone help?

Otherwise il change it for a punto one as i know these work well

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mistergrumpy

posted on 16/1/11 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
Is there not a diagonal split on the Fiesta MC? I'm sure it is on mine. I think I have one front and one rear for the fronts then one other for the back and a bleed nipple in the last.
Yep just checked. Diagonal split. Looking from the pedal end. Bottom right and top left are front and the other two are rear.

[Edited on 16/1/11 by mistergrumpy]

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rich201283

posted on 16/1/11 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
But would that make a difference even if it was connected up using the wrong ports? I should still get brake pressure shouldnt i?
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adithorp

posted on 16/1/11 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
The way you have it connected is correct for a kit. Why do you think you have low presure?
Does the push rod have a bit of play in it? It needs to have some when the pedal isn't being pushed.





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rich201283

posted on 16/1/11 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
I have tried to bleed over and over again and cant seem to get the brakes to work. if i take the pipe off the caliper andd put my fingure over the pipe and get somone to press the brake there does not seem to be hardly any push out of the pipe.

The pushrod is allso pushing right in.

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mistergrumpy

posted on 16/1/11 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
I don't know any more than this sorry mate British Trident is your man.
I know that when I had trouble holding pressure it was because one of the seals that held the reservoir was a bit tired, although it didn't look tired it was ever so slightly leaking and I only noticed when I caught a glimpse under the reservoir from a reflection of a piece of stainless steel.

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will121

posted on 16/1/11 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
what do you mean by low pressure? is it that there is no force at the calipers to make the brakes work, if so do either front or rears lock up? by using the master cylinder your front rear spit will need some bias valve or something to ballance them
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adithorp

posted on 16/1/11 at 10:50 PM Reply With Quote
When you've bled it do you get a hard pedal, a spongy pedal or does it just go down with no resistence?

When the pedal isn't being pressed is there slight play in the push rod?

When you open the bleed screws does fluid run through?

Are your bleed screws at the top of the calipers?





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rich201283

posted on 19/1/11 at 01:23 PM Reply With Quote
Think ive figured out whats up - The brake nipples should be at the top, I have them at the bottom, Calipers are upside down so they need swapping over to the other sides
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adithorp

posted on 19/1/11 at 01:28 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by rich201283
Think ive figured out whats up - The brake nipples should be at the top, I have them at the bottom, Calipers are upside down so they need swapping over to the other sides


Don't worry, you're not the first and you won't be the last to do that.





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