mark_rayfield
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 posted on 12/9/02 at 07:23 PM |
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Undifferentiated
Having just wasted another day in the garage I hurl myself before The Forum once again:
Rear diff on an escort axle is not keen on coming apart! Also half-shafts seem happy where they are!
This wouldn't normally be a problem, except that Merlin has kindly agreed to weld on some suspension brakets for me, and I didn't think he'd be too
keen on hefting the whole bloody thing around as it weighs a tonne. As such I'm trying to pull the thing apart so that I can give him just the
casing.
I've had a go at bashing the hell out of a wheel inner once re-united with it's half shaft, but the things just are not shifting!
Also, having undone the ring of nuts around the outside rim of the diff flange I now find that it too is reluctant to be freed. I can get it about
half inch clear, but now the gears seem to be holding it firm in place (it doesn't even want to go back!)- and I don't really want to damage
them.
Suffice to say I mad a big mess using lots of diff fluid, but other than that achieved nothing!
If all else fails I may be in the market for a new rear axle....
Any help or advice more than welcome
Mark
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paulf
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 10:04 PM |
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The diff will not come out until you have removed the halfshafts as they engage into it.You would really be best to obtain or make a proper shaft
puller, or maybe apply a little heat to the bearing housing end of the axle.
Paul.
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Having just wasted another day in the garage I hurl myself before The Forum once again:
I've had a go at bashing the hell out of a wheel inner once re-united with it's half shaft, but the things just are not shifting!
Also, having undone the ring of nuts around the outside rim of the diff flange I now find that it too is reluctant to be freed. I can get it about
half inch clear, but now the gears seem to be holding it firm in place (it doesn't even want to go back!)- and I don't really want to damage
them.
Suffice to say I mad a big mess using lots of diff fluid, but other than that achieved nothing!
If all else fails I may be in the market for a new rear axle....
Any help or advice more than welcome
Mark
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JohnFol
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 07:38 AM |
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The way I did it was to losen the brake shoe backing plate (with the shoes and gubbins removed first). It can't be removed but it does allow
movement. Then, using a suitable lump of metal through the inspection hole, you can hammer direclt onto the end of the half shaft. A few swift clouts
and it will come out.
I am of course dreading putting it back in 
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philgregson
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 10:57 AM |
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I'm sure this has been covered before but I can't remember the outcome and I'm too lazy to look at past posts so here goes:
Is it really neccessary to remove the half shafts to weld the suspension brackets on I would have thought the chances of damage were very slim.
I just can't bear the thoughts of all this half shaft trauma that every one seems to go through!
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JohnFol
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 12:27 PM |
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I blindly followed the book and removed them. I have had the same thought as you however decided removal was best.
My reasons were:
Easier to handle and clean axle
Fear of having hot metal in contact with oil inside the axle.
With hind sight (and a few pictures showing the opposite) I would consider leaving them in if I did a 2nd build.
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mark_rayfield
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 posted on 13/9/02 at 02:34 PM |
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So you knock it through the hole to loosen it and then pull it out same as normal?
Sounds nice and easy...
cheers for the advice guys - any further comments still welcome!
Mark
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 03:25 PM |
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where are you,ive got a slide hammer that will get them out faster than you can make a cup of tea 
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mark_rayfield
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 08:13 PM |
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The axle is in a place near to Ware.
I live in Bishop's Stortford which is a 15min drive away, and is smack on top of Stansted Airport and M11 Junction 8 - for anyone who uses it
that's where the road works are!
Be great to borrow it - I looked into hiring one, but it's £30 ish for a weekend!
Your very welcome to stop by tho and have a giggle at the lack of progress. If you give us fair warning I'll get some tea in!
If not, I might be able to swing by yours on the way to Merlin's pad? You're in London aren't you?
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scutter
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 10:25 PM |
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theconrodkid, likes his tea made with fizzy water!!!!!
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 06:53 AM |
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Yup frothy tea is good for you,my garage is in south harrow,phone no 0208 423 1025,not far from merlins place,gis a ring  ps i also like cream cakes.
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mark_rayfield
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 11:27 PM |
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I'll give you a bell once I get my life in order and know when I'm going to Merlin's. I might be down there sooner tho as I've got mate's
who've just moved to Harrow.... Anyways - I'll warn you if I'm coming and I'll bring some baked goods.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 16/9/02 at 03:50 PM |
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Im allways easier to talk to when i have some food inside me,prefrably fried or the cream cake variety 
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 16/9/02 at 03:50 PM |
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Im allways easier to talk to when i have some food inside me,prefrably fried or the cream cake variety
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Hasse
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| posted on 17/9/02 at 10:06 AM |
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Hi,
Just a proposal, this is the way I did:
Take a way the four nuts holding the "end plate" close to the bearing and turn this end plate a little bit, about 10mmm or so.
Refit the four nuts from the backside, so the end of the nuts meets the twisted end plate. Tighten the nuts a little bit at each nut, and the axle is
gently forced out.
Worked great for me.
Good luck.
/Hasse
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mark_rayfield
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| posted on 5/12/02 at 06:33 PM |
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I know you guys were all desperate to know how this situation panned out....
Anyways - it's all sorted!
Usual mechanics approach - it was all sorted by hitting it much harder with a much bigger hammer!!
I now need a new wheel rim, but that's a whole nother story....
Many thanks to all for your advice - now I've just gotta go get my chassis! Great Stuff
Mark
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