Alfalfameister
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| posted on 30/12/04 at 11:29 PM |
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What to look for in upright? <-Newbie Q
I was just browsing Ron Champion's book again, and was wondering why he didn't use the front wheels of the donor car.
He said to look for front uprights from another car. What was wrong with the uprights of the Escort donor?
The reason I ask is that, where I'm from, Escorts are (were) not popular, so I have to scrounge for other parts. What specific characteristics
should I be looking for in looking for front uprights/hubs?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 30/12/04 at 11:43 PM |
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Double Wishbone Front Suspension --- the Escort used struts.
The bottom part of a strut can cut off be adpated but it is much easier and better to use parts from a car with double wishbones.
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planetester
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| posted on 30/12/04 at 11:45 PM |
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if you look at most of the pictures in peoples archive you will see cortina & sierra uprights, cortina are best, sierra need a mod. escorts use
struts so they cannot be used, also i think one of the mazda sports cars are ok(rx7 I think) & hyundi stella(same as cortina) be prepared to keep
looking & once you find some, dont delay
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NS Dev
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 12:32 AM |
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Sierra use a strut too!!!!!!
It just comes off the upright easier than the Escort one!!!
In fact, a cut down Escort Mk1/2 strut (as used by Sylva in the past on the Striker, among others) is actually much better geometrically than the
Sierra upright, which I personally think is pretty awful for use with double wishbones, due to the severe inset of the top joint position.
As was said above, look for uprights from cars with double wishbone suspension as std, which use easily available joints, and you won't go far
wrong, i.e. Cortina (+ point, chassis depth was designed for it!) manta, chevette, viva etc etc. Cortina takes transit/maxi balljoints (transit top
and bottom if you like, I have in the past) and the others take sherpa van tie rod joints.
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Alfalfameister
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 01:36 AM |
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Right! As soon as I saw double wishbone, I did a Homer-Simpson-Slap-In-Forehead-"DOH!"
Okay, off to the surplus stores now (which we call locally "sorplasan" bec. locals prononce "surplus" as
"sorplas"... methinks "autojumble" in brit-speak)
Thanks a bunch! 
[Edited on 31/12/04 by Alfalfameister]
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 10:50 AM |
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the matchbox on a fagbox Lada's have very nice front susspension, easily adapted, they are double wishbone with disc brakes, what more could you
want.
Used then several times in the past don't know how many are around these days though, had a garage full at one time every time i passed a
scrappy with one in id'e grab em for next too nothing, only 3 bolts to take out and there off.
NS Dev, i used them on the front of specials before everyone started with rose joints and viva/spitfire where getting scarce, could replace a front
corner for around a fiver, oh, skoda alloys fit the stud pattern too.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 02:38 PM |
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A very good point that Jon! I have ued these on an off roader project that me and a mate built (6wd, 6w steer, independent suspension all round) and
they were handy. As you say, not so common now as a few years ago, but then still more common than Vivas! Manta uprights are dead easy to get now (I
have about 6 sets stuck to remains of mantas in the garden!)
Edit post.............it was Niva uprights on the off-roader......doh! Looked very similar though, just had a driveshaft in them too!
[Edited on 31/12/04 by NS Dev]
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 04:13 PM |
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best bit is you can use the wishbones too, just make brackets to suit, and maybe the steering rack, and there live axle as well,
is this the new donor to have ??
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 31/12/04 at 08:18 PM |
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Jon,I thought they had all been repatriated back to Russia.
I used to see hundreds all lined up in Hull docks waiting to go home,hardly see any at all now.
DEAN...
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 1/1/05 at 10:04 AM |
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your not wrong, but if one can be found it would make a great donor.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/1/05 at 12:45 PM |
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I believe that Ivan Gilmour (procomp eng.) uses the lada axle on the LA Gold 7's?? Certainly used to, think there were some nice ratios as std,
probably due to having little power.
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HAL9000v2.0
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| posted on 3/1/05 at 01:37 PM |
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I took Fiat/Lancia/lada front uprights.
But it needs different wishbones
You can check your sketch in this very good program:----> Wishbone calculator
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You know your making enough power when your clutch operates in binary.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 3/1/05 at 03:14 PM |
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Was Hyundai Stellar ever sold in your country ? --- it is an ideal donor rebodied re-engined Cortina.
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/1/05 at 03:44 PM |
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Only early ones.
They only used the Cortina set up for a couple of years then they went onto McPherson struts in about 1987. Opel Manta fronts look similar.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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