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trueblue

posted on 10/1/05 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
Book chassis/Sierra uprights/Wishbone Mods

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Standard Chassis,Sierra Uprights/Adaptor.

What changes to Wishbone design to accomodate these components?

Any thoughts apppreciated.

Trueblue

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GaryM

posted on 10/1/05 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
Wishbone Changes

Hi Trueblue

I've just reached the stage where i'm mounting my wishbones and am toying with a practical solution to ensuring I get sufficient castor AND have the wishbone brackets not unacceptably overhanging the chassis tubes.

My chassis and wishbones are to the book dimensions (Lolocost bushes and bush eyes) and i've used slightly oversized brackets to mount the lower wishbone (to give some fine castor adjustment via shims).

The best castor reading I can achieive is 2.7 degrees (measured with an inclinometre). I could squeeze some more if I wanted to increase the wishbones bracket overhangs and gusset them, but it just doesn't feel right somehow (i'm no engineer).

So the only solution left to me is to get some modified wishbones made up (probably top) with a greater offset built in (like Mark Allisons). I live locally to you and have had some trouble finding someone qualified to weld them up for me for a reasonable cost (best so far is £75 per wishbone) so i'd be interested in hearing from you should you decide to take this route.

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Surrey Dave

posted on 10/1/05 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
Wouldn't it be possible to use MK wishbones?

I thought that the MK chassis was the same width ,but possibly an inch taller, if so I dont seehow that inch above the mounting point of the wishbones would effect anything.

As regards caster angle its probably best not to fit tubes FU1 FU2 untill you can measure the caster angle. As a lot of us had to cut them out and start again..........

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James

posted on 10/1/05 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
Trueblue,

You need to find out definitively if the Sierra track is the same as Cortina.

When I first started I was told it was not the same. (That the Cotina was +4" and the Sierra +7" ) Since then I've read it is the same so who knows!

If the Sierra/Cortina track is the same then you're fine with the above plan- ie. Cortina rear axle, and MK Indy (Sierra track) front wishbones.

If the Cortina is narrower than the Sierra then this will end up with you having a wider front track than rear. And God only knows what the handling consequences of this would be!

All the best,
James

[Edited on 10/1/05 by James]

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ned

posted on 11/1/05 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
i've seen many chassis where the brackets overhang the tubes on fu1+2 so overhanging with properly gusetted brackets shouldn't be an issue, or move fu1+2 further back to suit?!

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trueblue

posted on 11/1/05 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
Book Chassis/sierra uprights/wishbone mods

Thanks for the info ; its obviously time for more research. Looking at an MK chassis would help to get a baseline for those dimensions; cue camera!

Sierra / Cortina Track again measurement time without the spacers.

Im not putting in the FU1/2 uprights until i have finalised what wishbones i will eventually use.

Enough thinking for one day wheres the aspirin.

Regards

Trueblue.

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James

posted on 11/1/05 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
What a lot of effort for 20quids worth of saleable, heavy, ugly, Sierra upright!

James


[Edited on 11/1/05 by James]

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Mark18

posted on 11/1/05 at 03:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
Trueblue,

You need to find out definitively if the Sierra track is the same as Cortina.

When I first started I was told it was not the same. (That the Cotina was +4" and the Sierra +7" ) Since then I've read it is the same so who knows!

If the Sierra/Cortina track is the same then you're fine with the above plan- ie. Cortina rear axle, and MK Indy (Sierra track) front wishbones.

If the Cortina is narrower than the Sierra then this will end up with you having a wider front track than rear. And God only knows what the handling consequences of this would be!

All the best,
James

[Edited on 10/1/05 by James]

This is exactly what Caterham are doing with their new 7. Seen pictures of it in Autocar, and the new IRS system looks like it uses a sierra diff of all things!

Mark





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