John Bonnett
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| posted on 13/7/20 at 07:05 PM |
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Converting to rose joint track rod ends.
Just an option I'm thinking about. Should the taper in the steering arm be bored out to parallel?
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 13/7/20 at 07:31 PM |
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Pretty sure I’ve seen an adapter the has a taper to fit the steering arm with a stud at the wide end of the taper to attach the rose joint?
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 06:42 AM |
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I've looked at a few Escort kits (which won't be any good for me) and they appear to have just an h/t allen bolt to fix the rose joint to
the steering arm. I wouldn't be happy to fit a parallel bolt into a taper.
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 07:45 AM |
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Just remember forces on the joint, rosejoints are not strong when pulling then ball out of the socket..
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 08:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bluemoon
Just remember forces on the joint, rosejoints are not strong when pulling then ball out of the socket..
It's a well used conversion on rally cars so I would have thought it would be okay.
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40inches
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 09:16 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by John Bonnett
I've looked at a few Escort kits (which won't be any good for me) and they appear to have just an h/t allen bolt to fix the rose joint to
the steering arm. I wouldn't be happy to fit a parallel bolt into a taper.
Perhaps a thick shouldered washer would do the job?
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 09:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
quote:
Originally posted by John Bonnett
I've looked at a few Escort kits (which won't be any good for me) and they appear to have just an h/t allen bolt to fix the rose joint to
the steering arm. I wouldn't be happy to fit a parallel bolt into a taper.
Perhaps a thick shouldered washer would do the job?
With a straight bolt into a taper it's only going to touch in the tight part so surely it has to flex where there's a gap.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 11:53 AM |
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How about machining a tapered item to fit through the steering arm with a securing bolt holding it all together. ?
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 11:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
How about machining a tapered item to fit through the steering arm with a securing bolt holding it all together. ?
I think that would be a good solution although simpler to drill out the taper in the steering arm to parallel.
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Theshed
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 01:27 PM |
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Made me think a bit this one. I was wondering why most track rod ends are tapered. I suspect the answer is to provide a second fail safe if the nut
comes undone.
I suspect a straight bolt and a nut with wire or a split pin would do the job. That said I would probably machine up a taper with a straight section
then threaded ends. Just feels more elegant. you may well need to build in high alignment busshes/joints as a standard rod end has quite limited
missalignment. A safety washer at the top in case the ball pops out (pretty unlikely in my view the load will be tiny).
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/7/20 at 04:08 PM |
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https://www.motorsport-tools.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/o/rod_end_DSC00693_1.jpg
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CNHSS1
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 posted on 14/7/20 at 10:52 PM |
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Rosejoint pins
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143647718025
"Racing is life, everything else, before or after, is just waiting"---Steve McQueen
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John Bonnett
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| posted on 15/7/20 at 06:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by CNHSS1
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143647718025
Good find. Thank you
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